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Old 08-17-2006, 05:56 PM
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Default O-rings: When are they necessary for sleeves?

I am having my B18B block sleeved by GE and I was wondering if I should get it O-ringed. I plan on running high boost, say 20+ pounds, and 350-400 HP. I'm not too sure exactly what the O-rings do for the top of the sleeves?

Any advice? Anybody have O-ringed sleeves?

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I think most people on here just stick with a stepped deck and its less things to worry about.
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So what exactly is a stepped deck? Is that the reinforcement at the top of the sleeve?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by siblues &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think most people on here just stick with a stepped deck and its less things to worry about.</TD></TR></TABLE>thats because most people don't have the patience to install the o-rings correctly, when it is actually very simple

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsturbo* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what exactly is a stepped deck? Is that the reinforcement at the top of the sleeve?</TD></TR></TABLE>step deck means the cylinders are higher than the mating surface around the outside of the block


personally i have o-rings and a stepped deck on my GE sleeved B18 overkill FTW
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Default Re: O-rings: When are they necessary for sleeves? (BrokeAssWhiteboy)

O-RING FOR SURE if you need extra copper wire, GE has that too!!

we are using them on our 800 + hp racecar with no problems.
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oring is good, but a lil overkill for your goals imo

my last head was oringed but the rings were SS and it was a bitch- had to run a copper HG i hated it, but im sure copper orings are 1000% better cause you can use an OEM gasket....

and yes I installed the copper HG correctly, they just suck as far as water-sealing
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I agree with what is stated above.O rings are very good but i think its overkill for 90% of the people on this board.I believe that if you are planning on running 600hp plus then you should look into it?Thats just my .02
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my aebs sleeves are o-rings.... no problems here at all

o-rings get my
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedJeff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my aebs sleeves are o-rings.... no problems here at all

o-rings get my </TD></TR></TABLE>

this guy has no idea what hes talking about
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my local machine shop that is working on my block is acutally doing my orings at the current moment. I was reccomended by endyn to do it for my goals of 750whp with my 85mm. The reason was for some extra bite!!!!! In my opinion, i wouldnt reccomend you to o ring your block if u are not going way over on bore size.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this guy has no idea what hes talking about </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey watch it there buddy
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Why not pay an extra $100.00 to have it O-ringed. Then just use stock thickness headgasket. Justice did mine
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Is the stepped deck something I have to ask GE to do for me, or is it automatically done to every block?
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its not automaticly done, if at all. i dont ever remember step deck being an option from GE. best bet is to call them and ask.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not automaticly done, if at all. i dont ever remember step deck being an option from GE. best bet is to call them and ask. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Was thinking the same thing...
I run the GE O-Rings and the only downfall is having to replace them every time you pull the head.

I too think its really only needed it you are over 83mm and 400HP.
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Well i just got my block back from my local machine shop and snaped a few pics for you guys to show you how my machinest did my orings. Here are some specs for you guys if you need some #'s .042" dead soft copper wire. The groove have been machined to a depth of .0324.



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