TheShodan

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Interesting. Never had a "shattered" MSD coil in 10 years. I wonder how it would do something like that. Curious.

Whiterice-gsr

not the coil just the cap and rotor, or mainly the rotor blew apart inside the cap, i havent the foggyest what happened but i replaced the cap and rotor with oem then i had stalling issues when it warmed up so i said screw it and bought a whole new dizzy. never really thought about it too much.

Whiterice-gsr

did a quick search for msd related threads, heres what i found.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/stupid-msd-94-gsr-distributor-cap-vs-94-integra-2889720/
http://www.clubintegra.com/board/showthread.php?t=25386

TheShodan

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the first link I can see occurring , but not because of them "not being reliable where our cars live in the higher range). I think that tends to be more about the part number of the cap they used, as well as perhaps just a bad batch. (Not to defend MSD, but many things go wrong even in v8 world, it doesn't mean its because its on "our" cars

The second one sounds a bit more like the rotor screw just wasn't on well enough. I've had OEMs break up on my daily drivers because the gasket for the cap wasn't on, or i didn't use the right torque on a stripped screw to come out.

Some of it is MSDs fault, but there aren't many choices in caps to choose from, and I wouldn't let one or 2 spoil a batch of 10,000 units. Its interesting people will post on the bad stuff of everything to make it easier to find, but never GOOD reviews. If someone does, all of a sudden their accused of "dick riding", "brown nosing", or "sucking up in the hopes of getting sponsored". Because of this ridicule that goes on in these forums, its hard to get pros and cons of one particular item with any objectivity.

Whiterice-gsr

well once i upgrade i'll give another one a try, i did not install the one that failed on me so i have no idea, it was on the car when i bought it along with a bunch of other stupid crap, i spent the first summer with this car taking things out of it and fixing hacked wiring issues. so judging by some of the work i had seen in my car its possible it was installation error for sure. my car had something like 35 owners on the used car package too.

CaliforniaDad

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That happened to me on a stock ignition rotor, the screw fell out and tore everything up inside. I now use a lock washer on mine.

CaliforniaDad

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Little Update:

I started to notice a little oil leak coming from the cam/valve cover area. Took of the valve cover and after close inspection, found the intake camshaft seal was leaking. So at this point since the cams were going to have to come out I decided to go ahead and re-torq my ARP head studs. And after pulling everything apart its a good thing I did because I found a few that at loosened up a bit. I guess with heat cycles and what not. So I replaced the cam seals, cam cap seal, valve cover seal, spark plug seals. Put it all back together and no leaky leaky yet.

sanman000719

msd fails period i went through 3 of them then sat down and thought about it, and was like well its reoccuring, they cost about 450 a pop, and i could have had a m&w pro kit by now so thats what i did. the m&w has not failed me in the past 3 years

CaliforniaDad

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Im a bit confused on why there is a coil tower coming off the mallory box? shouldn't the coil wire just go from the external coil to the MSD cap??

TheShodan

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You do realize that even if it died you could have sent it back to MSD under their warranty rebuild, right? I think the only thing I paid was shipping when my MSD Digital 7 arched.. I sent it in, paid $50, and it came back to me new. Worked so well, i gave it to my brother for his project.

I do see where you're coming from, don't get me wrong, but I'm just surprised that someone like yourself who doesn't take **** from anybody, didn't think of calling them up and getting the unit rebuilt for next to nothing, once it failed.

Whiterice-gsr

im just gonna stay stock until i have a reason to replace it.

CaliforniaDad

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hello? anyone?

TheShodan

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This one I can't answer, because I just went by the wiring instructions. Call summitt on their phone support. They'll go through it all with you if you think it'll work for you or not. I simply went by their instructions (me and a wiring buddy,) and put it together.

CaliforniaDad

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Well I talked to an MSD tech today, and for my ignition system here is what he suggested and I ordered this.

MSD Black Wires

MSD Modified Cap & Rotor

MSD HVC Blaster 2 Coil

MSD 6AL

TheShodan

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I have that exact same external coil, but DO NOT GET THAT MSD 6AL!!! Don't do it, man... I'm tellin' you..!!

CaliforniaDad

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I also picked up A Modified OBX LSD (washer/bolt upgrade) de-burred, and shot peened. I also ordered the Syncrotech Carbon syncros 1-5 and a full honda transmission bearing and seal kit.

CaliforniaDad

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I already have it. The tech I talked to at MSD told me there is no real advantage to go with the digital if I already have the analog unit already installed.

TheShodan

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well, good luck. I had one of those. worst ones ever. But the external coil was awesome. Still have it on my N/A car.

Whiterice-gsr

speaking of transmissions im curious, what tranny do u run shodan?

crvtectim

He runs an LS with a 1.266 final drive so he stays in boost the longest.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

LS Transmission with a GS-R 3rd Gear , 4.785 final drive and Cusco 1.5 way LSD. Crazy, I know, but a perfect match for Lime Rock, Beaver and Mid-Ohio.. Not so good for Gingerman, waterford or Mid-America.

TheShodan

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mmmmmmm k..

rich7777

How random lol, is this your daily driver ? If so how many miles have you had out of that plate diff ?

crvtectim

Lol, gotta keep the fallacies rolling. Gives me an edge. :]

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Huh? Your statements are not making any sense right now. please elaborate, if relevant.