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Old 12-29-2007, 11:09 AM
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I just got tuned yesterday on the street with crome pro. And now I want to learn how to tune myself. I been researching on xenocron.com and pgmfi.org and learned alot, but still have many questions that hopefully you guys can answer.

I currently have a laptop running crome free. I know I would also need a chipped ecu for tuning, a hulog for datalogging, a wideband to read the A/F ratios, and a moates chip burner to burn the chips to the customers ecu after the dyno tuning(let me know if I missed something), but what is an emulator ? I don't understand what that is and is it needed ? And based on my research this is all I need or am I missing something ? I want to get everything done right the first time and order all the nessecary tools.

Other than this I just need to practice tuning on a vehicle. Also if you can teach me what all the values in the fuel maps determine and how I would change them for the best power/reliability. Thanks, and I know searching more is good, but sometimes having other people give you some knowledge helps.

-Justin

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Default Re: Have some questions about tuning. (redDAinteg)

Justin,

An emulator allows you to program data live into the ecu with the car running without having to burn a new chip every time you make a change etc.
This is a tuning tool which is very useful.
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Default Re: Have some questions about tuning. (redDAinteg)

The numbers on the fuel map roughly correspond to how long the injectors should be open for. Higher numbers = more fuel, lower numbers = less fuel. You use these in conjunction with a wideband to tune to a desired AFR at a given rpm/load point. There's plenty of info out there on AFR tuning. Innovate (wideband manufacturer) has lots of good info on tuning with a wideband: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/resources.php
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you dont need an emulator but it makes tuning quicker so you dont need to burn chips (also called a Real Time Programmer... RTP)

an emulator is just something that copys something else...
IE. a little computer box pretending its a chip.

check out this link on PGMFI for some more turning info (if you havnt seen it)
http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php?t=10483

heres a few more

http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtop...1afcf

http://www.importbuilders.com/tuningacar.htm
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Default Re: Have some questions about tuning. (borat)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by borat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The numbers on the fuel map roughly correspond to how long the injectors should be open for. Higher numbers = more fuel, lower numbers = less fuel. You use these in conjunction with a wideband to tune to a desired AFR at a given rpm/load point. There's plenty of info out there on AFR tuning. Innovate (wideband manufacturer) has lots of good info on tuning with a wideband: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/resources.php </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the info, im going to read everything on that site. Also so when you change the numbers for a richer/leaner tune, is that considered datalogging ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by welfarepc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont need an emulator but it makes tuning quicker so you dont need to burn chips (also called a Real Time Programmer... RTP)

an emulator is just something that copys something else...
IE. a little computer box pretending its a chip.

check out this link on PGMFI for some more turning info (if you havnt seen it)
http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php?t=10483

heres a few more

http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtop...1afcf

http://www.importbuilders.com/tuningacar.htm
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Wow, thanks for the sites. the importbuilders site has tons of good information! I have to start reading up now!
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Default Re: Have some questions about tuning. (redDAinteg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redDAinteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks for the info, im going to read everything on that site. Also so when you change the numbers for a richer/leaner tune, is that considered datalogging ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No it is not.
Datalogging is logging events via the software you are using i.e. rpms, load point, air fuel ratio.

Start reading, then get back to us with more specific questions
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