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Old 07-30-2012, 12:29 PM
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Default B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Hey guys.

I just want to share my plans and get ANY input on them. Like the title says I am shooting for 600-700 whp out of my 98 spec B18C. So here is the plan.

Block done by Golden Eagle Mfg. Doing this:

ARIAS 84.0MM 3.307 Bore Low Compression
BLOCK ENGINE BUILD & BEARINGS
Bore & Hone - 4 Cylinder
Balance Rotating Assembly & Check Piston Pin Fit.
Eagle B18C 5.430 X 1.771 X .826 X .858 3/8 Bolt
Sleeved block Customer core
Cut Oring Groove In Block - When decking
-Groove .0030" Deep .004" Wide

GEM Polished Turbo Intake Manifold B18C - GSR

Hondata S300
Hondata 4bar Map Sensor
Boost Control Package - From Phearable.net
Glowshift Wideband



Speedfactory Ramhorn B-Series Turbo Manifold
Precision Turbo CEA 6262 Journal Bearing Turbocharger
TiAl MVR Wastegate
Blox Racing Oil Block Adapter Silver
T3 Stainless Turbo to Manifold Gasket
Injector Dynamics 1000cc Saturated Injectors B Engines

Competition Clutch Twin Disc Assembly
JDM S80 Tranny

So what do you guys think?

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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

that turbo is not gonna produce 600whp.
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

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that turbo is not gonna produce 600whp.
Yeah I wasnt sure. I was lookin at a Precision 6262 as well. That should do it.
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I like a GT35r for that power level, good luck
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Originally Posted by yzracer323
I like a GT35r for that power level, good luck
I think it maxes at 600 if I am correct. The 6262 will give me a better chance I think.
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Everyone seems to know how to spend money on the block but never seems to build the rest of the car around it.

Turbo is too small, 6262 you're going to really be pushing to get to that level as well.

Let me guess, 1000cc injectors and a walbro intank? You're running out of fuel real quick. You've got some things down, like the right clutch for the job, but definitely look into the turbocharger and the fuel system.
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by mtflyboy25
I think it maxes at 600 if I am correct. The 6262 will give me a better chance I think.
current turbo on mine is a Forced performance gt35r, 1.06ar. It made over 700whp. 6262 is also a good option, which ever you prefer
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by SovXietday
Everyone seems to know how to spend money on the block but never seems to build the rest of the car around it.

Turbo is too small, 6262 you're going to really be pushing to get to that level as well.

Let me guess, 1000cc injectors and a walbro intank? You're running out of fuel real quick. You've got some things down, like the right clutch for the job, but definitely look into the turbocharger and the fuel system.
Yeah 1000 injectors. Actually right now it only has an Aeromotive intank. I am turboing, then building the block. So the aeromotive 340 will do for now. I am going to be getting a cell and probably dual Aero 1000s or something along those lines. I am not worried about it until then. Car already has a Golden Eagle Fuel rail and Aero regulator so that part is good.

Interesting since the turbo is said to max at like 735 hp... It will hit my goals since I have talked to numerous shops and racers that use it.

Originally Posted by yzracer323
current turbo on mine is a Forced performance gt35r, 1.06ar. It made over 700whp. 6262 is also a good option, which ever you prefer
Nice. I didnt know it could handle that much. Either way the 6262 or the 5858 is still a good name, but not quite as expensive. I also want journal bearings not ball bearing. I am hoping to run this engine for a long time haha.
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yea the forced performance 35r flows a bit better than a regular garrett, like 75 lb/min if im not mistaken.

What fuel do you plan on running? and will it be a dedicated track car?(noticed you said drag build)
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by yzracer323
yea the forced performance 35r flows a bit better than a regular garrett, like 75 lb/min if im not mistaken.

What fuel do you plan on running? and will it be a dedicated track car?(noticed you said drag build)

I plan on running 93 to play with the turbo and get used to it at around 300hp. Then 110 / 116 depending on need for the best power combo. It will all be up to what my tuner thinks.

Once the block is built and the turbo is pushing out over 400 whp then yeah it will be a "street legal" dedicated drag car. I will continue to make it more and more dedicated as well. But for now it has license plates and I am going to be driving it a lot.
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Who ever said that the 6262 is too small to support 600hp is nuts. They have made upwards of 750 easily. Hell i made 550 on a 1.8l and only 21psi.
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by d16z6Tcrx
Who ever said that the 6262 is too small to support 600hp is nuts. They have made upwards of 750 easily. Hell i made 550 on a 1.8l and only 21psi.
Yeah I know it can make good power. I cant wait to get it on.
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U gonna daily it with race gas? I would stay away froM aero prove fuel pumps for ur power level I did 678hp with walbro 255 intank and inline Bosch and 2150s but ran out of fuel on e85 I think u should go with two Bosch 044 there good up to 800s
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U gonna daily it with race gas? I would stay away froM aero prove fuel pumps for ur power level I did 678hp with walbro 255 intank and inline Bosch and 2150s but ran out of fuel on e85 I think u should go with two Bosch 044 there good up to 800s
No. I am going to daily it on 93 at whatever power I can get. Ill see what I can get but I have no doubts about the 340 taking me to 300 whp and then the A1000 taking me to whatever I need.
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

I made 420+ on a single 255 1000cc injectors e85
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by ls_on_boost
I made 420+ on a single 255 1000cc injectors e85
hmmm.. my 340 might just take me up a bit higher then.
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I made 693 on stock sleeves with a single walbro 400 and 1600s. Base fuel pressure and 70% duty cycle q16. Less hassle less parts less money great results. Keep it simple.
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trans probably won't last very long either. either tone down the HP and make it a fun car to drag race or look into some aftermarket gears. heh
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A 6262 will make for sure make 700-750whp
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by d16z6Tcrx
I made 693 on stock sleeves with a single walbro 400 and 1600s. Base fuel pressure and 70% duty cycle q16. Less hassle less parts less money great results. Keep it simple.
Holy crap. On the stock sleeves? That sounds awesome and about as reliable as using a glass driveshaft lol. I want to be fast and be able to beat on it for a long period of time!

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trans probably won't last very long either. either tone down the HP and make it a fun car to drag race or look into some aftermarket gears. heh
Yeah. I did think of that. But I have never really heard what the S80 can hold. Anyone got any idea? Im guessing it can take 500 whp reliably.

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A 6262 will make for sure make 700-750whp
yeah I thought so.
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

6262 in kc made 740@36psi so it will make the power
my 6265 had made 780@36psi
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

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6262 in kc made 740@36psi so it will make the power
my 6265 had made 780@36psi
That will do!
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Stock sleeves good up to 500 with a good tune after 500hp ur on borrowed time. Is this ur first highhp car have u ever had 400hp+ in a Honda? it's plenty for what ur trying to do u want it to last a long period of time ur not too crazy in hp there to break stuff but things can happen at any hp.
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ls on boost, i want my sig to look like yours..damn!
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Default Re: B18c 600+ hp Drag Build

Originally Posted by ls_on_boost
Stock sleeves good up to 500 with a good tune after 500hp ur on borrowed time. Is this ur first highhp car have u ever had 400hp+ in a Honda? it's plenty for what ur trying to do u want it to last a long period of time ur not too crazy in hp there to break stuff but things can happen at any hp.
This is my first Honda. I had a 500 hp Mustang before. So I have never even worked with Turbos.


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