TurboBumblBee

Getting the car tuned tomorrow morning, im going to take it out to AR Fabrication because ive talked to the guys there and they seem to know whats going on and willing to help.. im just looking for some general numbers i tried searching but didnt find much.. about what do you think ill put down at the wheels so i can be expecting it tomorrow..

1993 honda civic dx hatch gutted
98 b18c1 block
84mm bore (2.0ltr) CP 9:1 pistions
AEBS sleeves
Eagle (i think) rods
arp headstuds

drag turbo kit
upgraded precison sc44 turbo
tial wastegate
blitz bov
honda s200b w/ 3 step
gm 3 bar map sensor
walbro 255 fuel pump
aem fpr
inline pro fuel rail
precison 680cc injectors

stock head
aem adj. cam gears
skunk2 Intake Manifold

lenso 13 slicks
full traction bars
gsr front and rear disc conversion
stainless lines
omni power coilovers
quiffe lsd

um i think thats about.. i was hoping to get atleast 400whp on pump gas and close to 500 on race gas.. does that sounds right? and for times at the track what do you think ill be able to pull off? thanks

CRX T-Si

Nice man.

Is it safe to do 400whp on a stock head?? I am speaking about the valve springs.

How high will you rev to??

TurboBumblBee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX T-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice man.

Is it safe to do 400whp on a stock head?? I am speaking about the valve springs.

How high will you rev to??</TD></TR></TABLE>

since its a stock head im not expecting to make much more power over 8k rpms but we will see once i get on the dyno..

Adriano

Everything seems good. But if i were you, I would run an exteranl fuel pump with bigger injectors.

ChrisRicketts

yea, you may need some bigger injectors, but that's a great setup you've got. good luck with the tuning....hope you make some awesome power.

TurboBumblBee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brryder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everything seems good. But if i were you, I would run an exteranl fuel pump with bigger injectors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

damn its late.. i just got the car all back together and ready for tomorrow, well really this morning to get tuned.. im freaking tired

when is an external fuel pump needed? im upgrading from the 440cc injectors/vafc hack to the presicion 680cc injectors and hondata s200b i thought that 680 was a big step and tahts what the shop recommended me to do for my goals of about 500whp...

Adi Radoncic

You don't need an external pump at all, don't listen to that.
680's should be sufficient for the power your looking for but they will be maxed out even if you turn the fuel pressure up.
Next time just go with 1000's that way you don't have to upgrade again.
And yes you will make around 400whp.

loserface

nope... i would say at 15 psi 300-330... pump gas..

integlspwr2k

iTrader: (3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't need an external pump at all, don't listen to that.
680's should be sufficient for the power your looking for but they will be maxed out even if you turn the fuel pressure up.
Next time just go with 1000's that way you don't have to upgrade again.
And yes you will make around 400whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can the hondata make that 1000cc injectors idle?

93H22ACX

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can the hondata make that 1000cc injectors idle?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it can make 1200cc

CRX T-Si

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loserface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope... i would say at 15 psi 300-330... pump gas..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You do realize it's an SC44 right??

That is a bit low IMO, 400whp still sounds good in my book.

TurboBumblBee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loserface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope... i would say at 15 psi 300-330... pump gas..</TD></TR></TABLE>

alright guys... dyno came out very well.. im very happy with the results and they way howard and brian tuned the car today.. i was on the dyno for about 3.5 hours and they did 20 dyno runs

it could have made a lot more power but i had a couple things holding me back.. howard suggested that i upgrade my intercooler cause the drag just wont cut it now and im also going to get a new exhaust setup and eventually go w/ a 3" dp..

i was making 280 @ 7psi on the sc44 when they did a baseline run..

car was tuned to tuned to 19psi on pump gas w/ no detentation and perfect a/f using there wb02 i dont have the last chart but the it was somewhere around 380hp..

Adi Radoncic

Congrats on the numbers!!

loserface

guess what pretty close..... 18 at 380.... good numbers though... is sc44 better than a 60-1?

TurbodCX

And this thing ripps guys!!!!

Glad you are happy bro.

Brian

92SleepyHB

Good numbers for a stock head

TurboBumblBee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurbodCX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And this thing ripps guys!!!!

Glad you are happy bro.

Brian</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey whats up man.. the car is a whole new monster now.. im taking it in to get the alignment done tomorrow after work so it not all over the road anymore.. i would really like to have seen how it did on race gas but it was already on the rollers all day long.. thanks alot i will definatly be in touch with you and howard..

TurbodCX

Rock on!!! Glad we could help you!

Brian

AR Fab

Glad your happy with it....be careful with that alignment!

I think afuel pump rewire will do the trick for you....no external.

C16 and more boost....I would say 450whp until the springs in the head say no more....just kinda depends on the shape they are in now...

Howard

TurboBumblBee

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Glad your happy with it....be careful with that alignment!

I think afuel pump rewire will do the trick for you....no external.

C16 and more boost....I would say 450whp until the springs in the head say no more....just kinda depends on the shape they are in now...

Howard

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im probably gonna get ahold of you next week sometime so i can tackle this fuel pump issue and also use the 2step thats built into the mds box, you said you could use a buttom or a/c clutch switch, im not sure what would be the best for it.. i would like to get all this done so i can be totally ready for imports vs domestics in Nov.

Marty the guy w/ the red hatch that was there w/ me is a mechanic at a shop and is gonna do my alignment today at 530 after work.. after that ill be good to go..

AR Fab

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im probably gonna get ahold of you next week sometime so i can tackle this fuel pump issue and also use the 2step thats built into the mds box, you said you could use a buttom or a/c clutch switch, im not sure what would be the best for it.. i would like to get all this done so i can be totally ready for imports vs domestics in Nov.</TD></TR></TABLE>


The MSD setup is the best way to go....and a button on the steering wheel is best too.....being that you have the stock steering wheel we may have to come up with some way to make it work though.....Try to get it up here quickly though...lol...we have 7 cars to get ready for that event so far....

Howard