Epic Tuning's 400HP D16Z6 powered Real Time 4WD EF hatch.
09-21-2007, 03:57 PM
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nice job ! ! !
did the rear sub frame bolt up?....other than then trans mount, diff mount, and coupler what did you have to fab? iv been thinking about doing this for a while now. is there room for an exhaust next to the drive shaft?
did the rear sub frame bolt up?....other than then trans mount, diff mount, and coupler what did you have to fab? iv been thinking about doing this for a while now. is there room for an exhaust next to the drive shaft?
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09-21-2007, 08:09 PM
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Thanks for all the comments.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakasis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice job ! ! !
did the rear sub frame bolt up?....other than then trans mount, diff mount, and coupler what did you have to fab? iv been thinking about doing this for a while now. is there room for an exhaust next to the drive shaft?</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is alot involved to this swap. The most difficult I think is the rear trailing arms. You need to use the wagovan hubs but the trailing arms are too long and the upper control arm mounting point is too high. We used the front half from the civic, the rear from the wagovan and fabricated our own upper control arm mounts. The stock subframe where the lower control arms mount needs to be removed. We welded plates with threaded inserts on the framerails to mount the wagovan subframe, which bolts on. A 2.5" exhaust could fit down the tunnel, a 3" will not. On the next one we do we will use the wagovan tunnel also.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OLD_HATCH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow
simply aamazing. Did you do anything special to the drivetrain to handle 4 times the power the drivetrain was made to handle?
Oh lets see some awd donuts! lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
The drivetrain is stronger than most people think. We have always had good luck with the strength of cable D-series trannies. The transfer case is driven off the ring gear and all the shafts and 90 degree gears are decent size. Another benefit to the 4WD D series tranny is that it uses a B series size output shaft spline and an intermediate shaft. The driveshafts are comparable in size to some rear wheel drive cars. The rear diff has about a 7" ring gear and has proven to be sturdy. We have also eliminated all bushings and mounted the rear diff and subframe solid. There is no wheel-hop. Another thing to remember is that the viscous coupling softens the shock to the rear drive components.
Video will be up tomorrow.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakasis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice job ! ! !
did the rear sub frame bolt up?....other than then trans mount, diff mount, and coupler what did you have to fab? iv been thinking about doing this for a while now. is there room for an exhaust next to the drive shaft?</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is alot involved to this swap. The most difficult I think is the rear trailing arms. You need to use the wagovan hubs but the trailing arms are too long and the upper control arm mounting point is too high. We used the front half from the civic, the rear from the wagovan and fabricated our own upper control arm mounts. The stock subframe where the lower control arms mount needs to be removed. We welded plates with threaded inserts on the framerails to mount the wagovan subframe, which bolts on. A 2.5" exhaust could fit down the tunnel, a 3" will not. On the next one we do we will use the wagovan tunnel also.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OLD_HATCH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow
simply aamazing. Did you do anything special to the drivetrain to handle 4 times the power the drivetrain was made to handle?
Oh lets see some awd donuts! lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
The drivetrain is stronger than most people think. We have always had good luck with the strength of cable D-series trannies. The transfer case is driven off the ring gear and all the shafts and 90 degree gears are decent size. Another benefit to the 4WD D series tranny is that it uses a B series size output shaft spline and an intermediate shaft. The driveshafts are comparable in size to some rear wheel drive cars. The rear diff has about a 7" ring gear and has proven to be sturdy. We have also eliminated all bushings and mounted the rear diff and subframe solid. There is no wheel-hop. Another thing to remember is that the viscous coupling softens the shock to the rear drive components.
Video will be up tomorrow.
09-21-2007, 08:52 PM
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impressive considering the 10 bolt rear end on my camaro is only 7.5 inches and usually theyll break but on a much heavier car with more shock and torque
