D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside
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D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside
Went to Payn Technologies in Detroit, MI. on May 3rd to have my Hondata tuned and Hondata nitrous controls software setup, just now getting around to posting results.
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D16Z6
JRSC @10 psi
9:1 Arias Pistons
Crower rods
STR blockguard
RC Engineering 440cc injectors
Clutchmasters 7 lb. flywheel
Rps 4 puck clutch
Hondata s200b
Hondata Nitrous Controls utilizing NOS parts (30 hp shot-jet 022)
On Payn's new Mustang Dyno the setup was good for 183whp and 178tq. The JRSC puts out a strong 9-10 psi and in high rpm's almost 11 psi. Tom tends to tune conservative which was what I was looking for, did a great job part throttle adn full throttle tuning.
Check out where the nitrous spray's at 4,000 cuts out at 7,000. We set the high end limiter at 7,200, started to get into valve float above that.
One of the coolest things was when they started tuning full throttle running rich as hell watching it just pouring smoke, a few pulls later exhaust was clean as a whistle, my first tune session.
We only got to tune it on a 30 shot of nitrous, this was Tom's first time using the Hondata nitrous controls so it took a second to get everything working properly then we ran outta time, it was the same day HIN was in Detroit. Already pumped the juice up since then and rechipped nitrous settings, can't wait to get it to the track and see what happens.
Setup
D16Z6
JRSC @10 psi
9:1 Arias Pistons
Crower rods
STR blockguard
RC Engineering 440cc injectors
Clutchmasters 7 lb. flywheel
Rps 4 puck clutch
Hondata s200b
Hondata Nitrous Controls utilizing NOS parts (30 hp shot-jet 022)
On Payn's new Mustang Dyno the setup was good for 183whp and 178tq. The JRSC puts out a strong 9-10 psi and in high rpm's almost 11 psi. Tom tends to tune conservative which was what I was looking for, did a great job part throttle adn full throttle tuning.
Check out where the nitrous spray's at 4,000 cuts out at 7,000. We set the high end limiter at 7,200, started to get into valve float above that.
One of the coolest things was when they started tuning full throttle running rich as hell watching it just pouring smoke, a few pulls later exhaust was clean as a whistle, my first tune session.
We only got to tune it on a 30 shot of nitrous, this was Tom's first time using the Hondata nitrous controls so it took a second to get everything working properly then we ran outta time, it was the same day HIN was in Detroit. Already pumped the juice up since then and rechipped nitrous settings, can't wait to get it to the track and see what happens.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
Nice, how does the nitrous control wire up? Are there any extra parts you need to buy, like a relay switch? I will be getting mine setup with my ZEX kit hopefully in a few months.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (RyanCivic2000)
You need some sort of switch to arm the system (I used a toggle) through the ecu and and a relay between the ecu and the nitrous solenoid.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
I have heard you have to wire it into the A/C pin on the ecu. What if I wanted to retain my A/C? Also, how exactly does it wire to the solenoid? I'm assuming it splices into the power to know when the system is armed?
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (Midwestrider)
I like the charger, it's not a big powerhouse up on the high end but it's got a **** load of torque. I love letting turbo guys drive it (not just b/c I get to drive theirs too), funny seeing the look on their faces when they step on it down low.
From the east side of cincy, and you?
From the east side of cincy, and you?
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
Have you got any heat soak yet? I herd that when JSRCs get hot they dont seem to perform as well. What is your opinoin/experince?
Blaze
BTW I like the setup.
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BTW I like the setup.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have heard you have to wire it into the A/C pin on the ecu. What if I wanted to retain my A/C? Also, how exactly does it wire to the solenoid? I'm assuming it splices into the power to know when the system is armed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can also wire it using power steering pressure switch input and purge solenoid output through the ecu, that would leave your a/c system operable. Relay send power to the solenoid to fire it.
You can also wire it using power steering pressure switch input and purge solenoid output through the ecu, that would leave your a/c system operable. Relay send power to the solenoid to fire it.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
Can I wire the relay into the nitrous arming switch I already have then and use the one switch to arm the whole system? Also the power steering switch, that would mean I would have to remove the power steering correct? I would much rather rid myself of that than the A/C. (hot if Florida, it would almost be as bad as getting rid of your heater core in Detroit (I used to live there))
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can I wire the relay into the nitrous arming switch I already have then and use the one switch to arm the whole system? Also the power steering switch, that would mean I would have to remove the power steering correct? I would much rather rid myself of that than the A/C. (hot if Florida, it would almost be as bad as getting rid of your heater core in Detroit (I used to live there))</TD></TR></TABLE>
To arm the system all you do is wire a toggle switch with a ground on 1 side into the ecu, either pin the a/c switch or p/s switch if you wanna keep your a/c. Simple, when you flip that switch it automatically sends a ground to the ecu, that is what arms the system. Pretty sure you can keep your power steering even if you use that as an input. That is the only way I know to arm the system is by sending ground to ecu.
To arm the system all you do is wire a toggle switch with a ground on 1 side into the ecu, either pin the a/c switch or p/s switch if you wanna keep your a/c. Simple, when you flip that switch it automatically sends a ground to the ecu, that is what arms the system. Pretty sure you can keep your power steering even if you use that as an input. That is the only way I know to arm the system is by sending ground to ecu.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (Blaze45)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blaze45 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you got any heat soak yet? I herd that when JSRCs get hot they dont seem to perform as well. What is your opinoin/experince?
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Watching the datalogger the intake temp heats up hard at wot in longer gears without the nitrous. Any sort of compressor at that psi will produce a hot charge without some sort of inter/aftercooler. I'm sure the heatsoak overall is a little worse than other setups considering the charger is bolted directly to the intake manifold.
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Watching the datalogger the intake temp heats up hard at wot in longer gears without the nitrous. Any sort of compressor at that psi will produce a hot charge without some sort of inter/aftercooler. I'm sure the heatsoak overall is a little worse than other setups considering the charger is bolted directly to the intake manifold.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (RyanCivic2000)
Let me know when you get some track times. I ran this setup for 2 years on my del sol. Never dynoed, but it was probably making mid to high 200s. Hit 116 in a 2400 lb car. I'm interested to see how you do. Brian
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (XXXRacing)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XXXRacing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me know when you get some track times. I ran this setup for 2 years on my del sol. Never dynoed, but it was probably making mid to high 200s. Hit 116 in a 2400 lb car. I'm interested to see how you do. Brian</TD></TR></TABLE>
116 mph, What? Thats unbelievable, fastest I've been through the trap on this setup with 22x8x15 is 100 mph, do you have any details on your setup?
116 mph, What? Thats unbelievable, fastest I've been through the trap on this setup with 22x8x15 is 100 mph, do you have any details on your setup?
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
you can check ou tmy website. All of the specs are on there: http://www.hometown.aol.com\sx....html
email me with any questions: sxebrian@aol.com
email me with any questions: sxebrian@aol.com
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GITWIDIT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.
Setup
D16Z6
JRSC @10 psi
9:1 Arias Pistons
Crower rods
STR blockguard
RC Engineering 440cc injectors
Clutchmasters 7 lb. flywheel
Rps 4 puck clutch
Hondata s200b
Hondata Nitrous Controls utilizing NOS parts (30 hp shot-jet 022)
On Payn's new Mustang Dyno the setup was good for 183whp and 178tq..</TD></TR></TABLE>
You made 183whp with a supercharger AND nitrous!?? if so...when you getting a turbocharger
Setup
D16Z6
JRSC @10 psi
9:1 Arias Pistons
Crower rods
STR blockguard
RC Engineering 440cc injectors
Clutchmasters 7 lb. flywheel
Rps 4 puck clutch
Hondata s200b
Hondata Nitrous Controls utilizing NOS parts (30 hp shot-jet 022)
On Payn's new Mustang Dyno the setup was good for 183whp and 178tq..</TD></TR></TABLE>
You made 183whp with a supercharger AND nitrous!?? if so...when you getting a turbocharger
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (XXXRacing)
[QUOTE=XXXRacing]you can check ou tmy website. All of the specs are on there: http://www.hometown.aol.com\sx....html
That's some killer cars and setups, nice link
Hope my car has the potential to do that!
That's some killer cars and setups, nice link
Hope my car has the potential to do that!
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (gs R inteqras)
nice numbers...thats some nice torque for the D16
how long did it take them to tune your car??
how long did it take them to tune your car??
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (Powered By D15)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Powered By D15 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice numbers...thats some nice torque for the D16
how long did it take them to tune your car??</TD></TR></TABLE>
2 hrs., best money I've spent on my car, thanks Tom!
how long did it take them to tune your car??</TD></TR></TABLE>
2 hrs., best money I've spent on my car, thanks Tom!
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (GITWIDIT)
GITWIDIT, where are you spraying the nitrous into the motor? Before the JRSC? This can be bad for the blower rotors you know.
See ya at Ricewater sometime!
I smoked the clutch, no running juice for a while.
See ya at Ricewater sometime!
I smoked the clutch, no running juice for a while.
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Re: D16z6 JRSC at 10 psi w/nitrous, Dyno and pics inside (Mista Bone)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GITWIDIT, where are you spraying the nitrous into the motor? Before the JRSC? This can be bad for the blower rotors you know.
See ya at Ricewater sometime!
I smoked the clutch, no running juice for a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, sprayin in front of throttle body through charger.Some say it's bad, some say it's okay, I really don't care to much, been gettin away w/ it for 2 yrs.
Did you smoke the clutch at ricewater? Sucks, yeah I'll be see'in you there!
See ya at Ricewater sometime!
I smoked the clutch, no running juice for a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, sprayin in front of throttle body through charger.Some say it's bad, some say it's okay, I really don't care to much, been gettin away w/ it for 2 yrs.
Did you smoke the clutch at ricewater? Sucks, yeah I'll be see'in you there!