SLIM NOTHING

id say since you want to just play around. go get a b18b and an ebay turbo kit. get it all tuned and your good for a play beater. now if you are gonna do it right your 2-3k budget isnt gonna cut it.

SLIM NOTHING

i agree 100% chris miller said the same thing. something like, he will wait and save the money for a part so its done right, instead of doing it over and over with junk.

b00stME

Here's a option: cheap, fast or reliable you can only pick two lol

sanman000719

ehhh not so true stock blocks are very very under estimated, and in the hands of a great tuner (this is where the money should be spent) a stock motor can get it done as well

MalcolmV8

Yup that's what I'm looking for. Just something to play around with. It's more about learning about turbos and experimenting and having fun. A tinker toy on the side.

This is one case where I choose cheap and fast I'm not to concerned with reliable or 500+ hp from this project. My Cobra already fits that bill and cost me a ton of money.
I'm just looking for another side project to play with and have fun. A turbo 4 cylinder really fits that bill and sounds fun as hell.

As for HP goals. What ever I can make on a stock internals motor will be fine. I just want to turbo it and have some fun.

To the fellow who posted those shops in KC, thanks man. I'll give them a call and see if I can get some info.

Anymore info on turbo'ing 00-05 model years would be great. Those model years seem to be the most commonly available for sale and easiest to get my hands on.

b00stME

Lol if those are your choice I say a b18b engine and a eBay turbo kit with 25psi of boost and run 11s

enemy no1

Since you said you would still like to aim for the newer civics because you like the way they look and they're a little newer, thats fine if thats the route you want to take. Just keep in mind that the only motor you can swap into a 01-05 civic is a k series otherwise you're stuck with the D17. The K series swap isnt exactly cheap and boosting the D17 is going to be more expensive and a little bit more difficult than boosting the earlier generation cars/motors. just fyi

In all honesty though, you're REALLY going to be better off with the earlier models (88-00)

enemy no1

to be more specific the cars you want to look for:

88-00 civics
90-01 integras

if you like preludes and accords:

92-01 preludes

90-97 accords - i'm not as familiar with the potential of 98+ accords, but they may be just as easy to modify and tune as the earlier models. For that info you'll have to research.

MalcolmV8

Alright guys. You've convinced me 88-00 is the way to go. I will search those model years. I will probably get as close to 00 as I can so I can get good condition and lesser miles... if possible but any good deal will be fair game.

enemy no1

^^great now for engine management. Of course you can go with whatever you like. There are a lot of options. A relatively inexpesive and very effective option (which is the option I like) is a "chipped & socketed OBD1 ecu" I would recommend you research this. Depending on what car you buy you may need a conversion harness ($75) Basically its a modified factory honda ecu that allows your tuner to burn several choices of software onto it.

sanman000719

P28 with hondata s300 man

enemy no1

most civics with exception to the 99-00 civic si all come with a D series motor (sohc 102-127hp) The Si's came with B16A2 (DOHC 160hp)

The integras ALL came with B series motors (DOHC) depending on which model you either get RS,LS came with B18A1 and B18B1 both around 140hp The GSR B18C1 makes 170 hp I think ,and the Type R B18C5 makes 195hp

94GSRMR

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/official-turbo-lsvtec-thead-post-your-setups-1509557/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/post-your-turbo-gsr-hp-numbers-1501150/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/sohc-boosted-set-ups-chime-place-single-slams-1643764/
Hondata.com
Phearable.net
Go-Autoworks.com
JHPUSA.com
is all you need.....

sc34dc4

iTrader: (1)

^^^ those are good companies but he is trying to stay within 2-3g.
S300 with boost option is around 650 which you can run neptune rtp and it's cheaper '450' and offers the same capabilities and more. You could run crom free which would be no charge except the price of socketing/chipping your ecu '100' but doesn't have all the bells and whistles but would be fine for what you're doing.

MalcolmV8

I was going to go look at this car tomorrow but you're saying it's the SOHC version that I don't want right?
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2256721167.html

So to get the DOHC motor I need to find an integra? Or a 99/00 SI model civic?

sanman000719

single cams have been getting down lately man lol

600+hp

running 9's

sanman000719

i even think speed factory did in on a budget type build when the expensive built block had issues

Spawne32

iTrader: (3)

stick with OBD1 honda's and you will be alright, anything with a b series engine, ebay turbo kit, tune, and go nuts.

umair

correct but you can find a civic with a swapped motor(88-00).

i think a del sol would also make a fun little car. it has a removable top too. only downside is that its a 2 seater.

MalcolmV8

So are the SOHC 92-00 motors considered b series motors? I'm a little confused on that.

sanman000719

no single cams motors are D series

then you have the F series in the bigger apps

umair

no they are d series. stock motor sohc engines can handle about 200WHP safely. on a built motor tho its a whole different ball game tho. but people have made as much as 400WHP on a stock sohc.

b series is dual cam.

enemy no1

It depends on what you want/like. That car you're looking at isnt a bad starting point. 99 civic ex comes with a D16Y8 = 127 hp at the crank stock. If you put a turbo on that engine (with the stock bottom end) you'll probably end up with around 170-200 whp I think.

There are some civics you may find on craigs list and the classifieds that already have a B series swap done, but you may not know right away how well its been taken care of until you start getting into it. The ones that Ive seen look pretty molested and ragged out, but who knows you may get lucky and find a clean one in nice shape.

If you want the B series (DOHC) already in the car from the factory then yes you are correct you need to find an integra or find a 99-00 civic si. I think the guys with the B18 A/B's (non-vtec) boosted on stock bottom ends are making around 250-275whp if I'm not mistaken. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

umair

if you are on a budget the best thing to do is buy a b series swapped civic/crx or del sol. you can boost a b series motor and it will be a fun lil car on 10lbs. on psi i was pulling on c6 vets.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

No. the SOHC motors follow the same years as the DOHC engines. The SOHC guys get a bad rap because it takes much more in the way of engine work, parts, and tuning to do what the B-series (DOHC) versions can do with less money.

B-series engines are DOHC
D-series engines are SOHC
K-series Engines are DOHC
H-series engines are DOHC

Check also on wikipedia under "civic" to see the different engine models. for what you're trying to do, B-series are best to use. Those engines can be swapped into other civics even though they came from integras. (this is also why they are highly stolen)