b18b1 build up
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b18b1 build up
Hi guys, I was thinking of buying a b18b1 to build up to use with some sort of turbo, and then swap out my b18c5 for it. (I figured i'd spend the extra cash on a used b18b1, instead of trying to turbo a b18c5...for many reasons)
I could really use some suggestions as to what parts to get as well as which turbo you would suggest.
I'm looking for a daily driver, with around 6-12 psi.
TIA! (and i know how to use the zerosearch )
I could really use some suggestions as to what parts to get as well as which turbo you would suggest.
I'm looking for a daily driver, with around 6-12 psi.
TIA! (and i know how to use the zerosearch )
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Re: b18b1 build up (00-0187)
thanks ben for the info...
how about if i just wanted to turbo the b18c5?
this guy at work is claiming running 10 psi on a stock b18c5 is just fine...
how about if i just wanted to turbo the b18c5?
this guy at work is claiming running 10 psi on a stock b18c5 is just fine...
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Re: b18b1 build up (00-0187)
For what u can sell your sell ITR motor, u can probably buy a B18B and a turbo kit..
conservatively, 10psi is a safe limit for a stock motor B18B.. but im gonna try to do 13-14.. I know of many people who have done more.. I wouldnt waste my time boosting an ITR when for the same price u can boost a built B18B which will no doubt be ALOT faster..
I wouldnt try 10psi on a stock compression ITR, no way in hell.. u have to be damn good to pull that off..
Id say swap in a stock B18B, maybe pistons and rods... sell the ITR motor, get the turbo kit and spend the money u were gonna spend on the turbo kit for hondata and the build up.. Run 12psi on pump gas, make around 300whp and haul ***..
conservatively, 10psi is a safe limit for a stock motor B18B.. but im gonna try to do 13-14.. I know of many people who have done more.. I wouldnt waste my time boosting an ITR when for the same price u can boost a built B18B which will no doubt be ALOT faster..
I wouldnt try 10psi on a stock compression ITR, no way in hell.. u have to be damn good to pull that off..
Id say swap in a stock B18B, maybe pistons and rods... sell the ITR motor, get the turbo kit and spend the money u were gonna spend on the turbo kit for hondata and the build up.. Run 12psi on pump gas, make around 300whp and haul ***..
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Re: b18b1 build up (00-0187)
but wait, u have a typeR,... I missed that part.. Even if its better on the budget id still rather have a typeR motor in my typeR if i had one..
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Re: b18b1 build up (DIRep972)
DO this...sell b18c5 buy:
B18B HEAD
• Portflow Port & Polish
• Portflow Deshroud Chambers to fit 84.5MM bore
• Stainless Steel Valves (Swirl Polished Black Nitride Coated)
• Portflow Titanium Retainers
• Portflow Valve Springs
• Stock Cams
B18B BLOCK
• Golden Eagle Sleeves (bored and honed to 84.5mm)
• Eagle Connecting Rods
• Endyn 9.0:1 Compression Rollerwave pistons (84.5mm)
• Crank Micro-polished & Balanced
• Cometic 85MM Headgasket
• Pro Drive Oil Pump Gear
• Moroso Oil Pan
• Moroso Oil Pickup
z10 engineering block girdle
MISCELLANEOUS
• New oil pump
• New water pump
• All new belts and hoses and bearings
• ARP hardware
That is what I am planning, well...not selling the b18c5 (cause i don't have one), but otherwise. What does everyone think? Good for 350whp? Daily driver.
B18B HEAD
• Portflow Port & Polish
• Portflow Deshroud Chambers to fit 84.5MM bore
• Stainless Steel Valves (Swirl Polished Black Nitride Coated)
• Portflow Titanium Retainers
• Portflow Valve Springs
• Stock Cams
B18B BLOCK
• Golden Eagle Sleeves (bored and honed to 84.5mm)
• Eagle Connecting Rods
• Endyn 9.0:1 Compression Rollerwave pistons (84.5mm)
• Crank Micro-polished & Balanced
• Cometic 85MM Headgasket
• Pro Drive Oil Pump Gear
• Moroso Oil Pan
• Moroso Oil Pickup
z10 engineering block girdle
MISCELLANEOUS
• New oil pump
• New water pump
• All new belts and hoses and bearings
• ARP hardware
That is what I am planning, well...not selling the b18c5 (cause i don't have one), but otherwise. What does everyone think? Good for 350whp? Daily driver.
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Re: b18b1 build up (2K_TEG)
We'll I pretty much did the exact thing on my setup. Although I had gone locally to get my head work done by GTP in Houston. They did a stage III port and polish, valve job with all new Ferrea valves, and Ferrea springs and retainers. It took them a little longer than expected, although I am happy with the work! 2K_Teg, if you get ARP main studs, which I would recommend, make sure you get your block reline honed. The ARP studs torque at a different rate, and the slightest move of any of the main caps will damage the crank! I would'nt mind getting one of those oil pans though! Also is that a Nippon Power head gasket you are getting? How thick is 85mm exactly? I am used to thousands of an inch when it comes to Honda head gaskets! We just recently ordered a, I think it was either a .65 or .75 thousands of an inch, head gasket from Nippon Power. They called today to let us know they need three more weeks. Have you seen one first hand or do you know anybody using one? If so is it worth it, because for a thicker metal head gasket they are very cheap especially compared to I think Greddy or HKS. I forget but I think it's HKS that has 2 different sizes in thicker metal head gaskets that are around $400.00 I believe! We'll anyways good luck! Oh and please let me know about the head gasket at dsmturbosi@aol.com
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Re: b18b1 build up (dsmturbosi)
The head gasket is made by cometic
"Cometic HP Style head gasket has an extra shim around the combustion area to help seal better for cars with turbo, nitrous or supercharger. Cometic's MLS (Multi-Layer Steel) Gaskets are constructed of two nitrile coated outer embossed spring steel layers with a steel inner layer that provides support to the gasket allowing multiple thickness. Cometic gaskets withstands the shearing forces created by aluminum heads on cast iron blocks. Once the gasket takes a torque set, there is no re-torquing required. Less clamping force is required allowing for reduced bore distortion.
All Cometic Gaskets are custom made to order. Gaskets usually ship within 4-5 business days. For custom sizes not listed, please call 305-805-1321."
Nippon Racing sells them. The 85 mm is the bore and I am not sure of the thickness yet. I still have some research to do before I get this project rolling. IM arturbo about the headgasket, he is who recommended it to me. Tell me more about the ARP issue. Should I just use stock? Thanks.
"Cometic HP Style head gasket has an extra shim around the combustion area to help seal better for cars with turbo, nitrous or supercharger. Cometic's MLS (Multi-Layer Steel) Gaskets are constructed of two nitrile coated outer embossed spring steel layers with a steel inner layer that provides support to the gasket allowing multiple thickness. Cometic gaskets withstands the shearing forces created by aluminum heads on cast iron blocks. Once the gasket takes a torque set, there is no re-torquing required. Less clamping force is required allowing for reduced bore distortion.
All Cometic Gaskets are custom made to order. Gaskets usually ship within 4-5 business days. For custom sizes not listed, please call 305-805-1321."
Nippon Racing sells them. The 85 mm is the bore and I am not sure of the thickness yet. I still have some research to do before I get this project rolling. IM arturbo about the headgasket, he is who recommended it to me. Tell me more about the ARP issue. Should I just use stock? Thanks.
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