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Old 01-24-2012, 05:51 PM
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Well i decided to keep up with progress and also to avoid me creating numerous threads over the next few months I might as well just create a build thread.

I am building my honda del slo for boost & with your help & a bit of luck will have it completed over the next few months. I "do" have a DD and fact of the matter is this car hasn't seen more than 200 miles in 2 years "COMBINED" so I really wanna get the ball rolling on this and get it back on the road. Going that long without driving it really hurts the motivation!

Come this sunday the supercharger will be removed & i will begin the turbo build. Unfortunately i "never" ran the supercharger, I only had it installed recently but wanted to wait until summer to slap the belt on & tune on E85, wish i could have ran it even for a short while to really see what it could do on 10 or 15psi w/high comp motor & e85 but Ive got a nice start for a turbo kit & the supercharger has been sold. With that being said shes getting pulled apart this weekend and the new build will start!1

For starters here are some misc pics of the car.

This was about 2 years ago, when it was all motor and I drove it ofton...before the clear coat on my hood magically vanished haha



Here is the current front end pic, new bumper "havnt installed fogs yet" however the air to water heat exchanger is nice place





Rear suspension done!



The vortech kit i just sold





Air To Water set-up
-5Gallon Cell & a nice pump! Keeping "this" air to water setup including the heat exchanger for the turbo build!













I always loved nightrider...so why not haha

-s2k cluster conversion/fully functional w/freshly reset odometer
-boost gauge
-fuel pressure gauge
-aem wide band gauge
-coolant temp gauge "i like to have a backup/more accurate reading"





3" exhaust mocked up including E-cut out after the header













My poor car was neglected for a year while I had "2" knee surgery's forcing me to spend more time & money on medicals bills and getting myself back to par....hood went to crap





Heres the set-up "thus far"

2000 JDM Integra Type R B18c
4.785 Final Drive, LSD
Innovative Motor Mounts
Import Builders Ported Intake manifold, opened up to 65mm intake side
Ported Throttle body, 70mm intake side to 65mm intake manifold side
Hondata intake manifold gasket
Aem fuel rail w/pressure guage
1000cc ID injectors
Skunk 2 Stage 1 Cam-Shaft’s
Skunk 2 6 Bolt Cam Gear’s
JVT Half Size Radiator w/Slim Fans for Rad & Ac
Endyn breather kit
Omni Power Master cylinder
AEM Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
msd 6 BTM
msd blaster SS coil
msd cap
msd rotor
msd wires
Act Stage 3 6 Puck Clutch
Act Street light flywheel

6x10 PWR A2W intercooler
Hytech turbo manifold w/t4 flange and polydine coating

Pics of some of the goodies










Ill post more below in just a moment

For anyone wondering who did the great weld work on the exhaust or ran the AN lines & Fittings that would be

HTP "Hi Tuned Performance" Matt is a 1 man army & is literally the "only" shop in st.louis I would trust to a task I could not complete myself

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Alright now for the fun stuff....

For 1, i need to figure out exactly which remaining parts id like to buy and figure them into my budget. Im sitting at about 3k to finish this at the moment.

This is NOT a dd however i wouldn't mind some reliability haha i know..reliability i said it

Power Goals: Id like to see 300-350whp low boost and be able to reach 500whp high boost "if its ever needed"
Car is not tracked but who knows maybe ill venture that way eventually and enjoy it there as well.

Needs

1) Turbo
Spoke with Shodan & I believe we are going to go with the Reaper t4, .58ar ? I have to use a t4 turbo as that is what the manifold flange is for. Personally the larger turbo does not bother me as long as im getting full spool by high 4's or low 5k's rpm. Reason being is the jdm 4.7 final drive keeps the rpm's high even if i dont want them to be. Yea technically i could have a new flange welded on and such but id hate to ruin its beauty.

2) Downpipe
Still researching on the pro's/con's of an open dump tube vs recirculating. I kinda like that its quiet without the e cut out open but dont wanna lose power just to keep it a "tad" more quiet

3) Fuel Management
Sitting on a working s200 now however it would need the boost option unlocked which is $150, at this point perhaps an upgrade to the s300 or older aem ems would be better

4) Wastegate
Flange is for a 46mm tial wastegate so that is what ill be buying, downside is its around $500 brand new

5) Blow off valve
This is most likely going to be opinion, i havnt heard enough in person to make a decision but from what ive seen "Tial" seems to be the clear cut choice

6) Oil Line
This would most likely be purchased at time of turbo to insure i do or do not need a restrictor or to make sure everything is the proper fittings etc

Amung those which im sure im forgetting something there are alot of misc items Im going to need to buy as well.

Next up on my list is the Motor
-Currently sitting on a stock internal type r engine that made 200whp NA but i know it wouldnt last on the goals im shooting for...with that being said im torn on which route to go...sell the entire long block, or just the short block and build new, buy used etc.

I will mention i have a set of "gsr steel crower rods" & cp 11:5 pistons however the pistons may or may not need to be replaced. I am "not" an engine builder but ive heard mixed responses.

Ill update this thread ofton as new toys arrive and as well as all of my questions arrive. I will "not" be building an engine as i simply do "not" have the tools or time/knowledge to complete that along with the rest. However I will be doing as much as I possibly can myself along the way minus the welding and engine building!

I appreciate any information or insight onto my project. Thanks guys & looking forward to starting this build!

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Subscribed. Car looks like its built really damn well
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Can't see pics yet, but sounds like it'll be a nice build. I'm in also....
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Ill get some pics of her on Sunday after the tear down, she has been under a car cover all winter, no worry's though Ive got some toy's to install as well as some to take off, its a give and take relationship these past couple of years!
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Cool build!
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Well Day 1 has ended....i got off to a late start as yesterday was the worlds longest day driving to Columbia to catch a mizzou game then back to st.louis, then to the casino for a bit....

Anywho here she is, today my goal was to simply remove the S/C so it can be packaged & shipped to its new owner.

Ignore that "white/chaulky" stuff that the entire car is covered in, it appears my car cover shed's really bad, ill trash it at the end of winter but for now besides leaving white chalky material everywhere it at least keeps the sun off of it.

Also i apologize in advance if my pics came out bad, i used my cell phone to snap pictures today as my mem card is MIA. Next time ill use my reg camera for updates.

Here is her first peak at the Sun from a long and continuous winter



Another front view



Heres a few pics of the beautiful charger i never got to enjoy





All Jacked Up







Charger is out & its getting dark...it appears nearly all the lights in the garage burnt out after not using them for months










I like to label all the bolts etc to make it easier for the next owner..i typically do this on my own stuff as well in case i happen to forget'



Any some eye candy for the new parts!!



My goal next weekend is to

-Install full race traction bars
-Install ID 1000 CC injectors
-Remove Header
-Fix driver & passenger side door locks
-Spray the car down and get rid of that nasty white chalk its covered in
-Have a complete list of parts needed and which parts ive decided to go with for my build including which engine/build route im going to take.

I ordered a few more goodies today, pics at they arrive!
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Nice build, should be awesome! Why the choise to go from belt driven to exhaust driven?

Dumb question, I would have done the same. But I have never been in a supercharged B-series car, so that's why I ask.
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I have a blue tial 46mm I'm trying to sell
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Nice build, should be awesome! Why the choise to go from belt driven to exhaust driven?

Dumb question, I would have done the same. But I have never been in a supercharged B-series car, so that's why I ask.
Well to be honest, it was always my plan to try for a 500whp build but money got tight after having to have a few knee surgery's and i lost alot of motivation to really put time into the car being so busy with work & everything else the past year or so. All said & done I bought the vortech and thought id just shoot for 350whp and have fun with it.....then i get a decent offer on the kit & already had this turbo manifold & power cooler sitting around so decided to pick up on that dream of mine where I had left off...wish i would have at least got to have it tuned/enjoyed it s/c'd for a few rips but at least now i have the funds for a solid start on the turbo build which larger numbers in mind. On top of that i was planning on going air to water whether i went turbo or supercharger so the front mount heat exchanger, water cell, pump, lines etc will all be used on the new setup & were overkill for the vortech either way.
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Didnt get any chances to work on the car last weekend, between birthday deals, booking for vegas & superbowl. However ive got some nice parts in route that should arrive this week, hoping for Sunday Fun-Day to pull out the JDM ITR swap'

Thoughts on going with an 11:5 comp short block? Too high for my goals even on 93 w/meth & water or e85? I know 11:1 is considered high but there is a perfect short block I can snag up that is built/sleeved, 84mm & 11:5 Comp pistons......
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What are you selling the vortech for?
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What are you selling the vortech for?
Its already long gone', shipped her out last week
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Cool stuff, however I haven't heard very good thing about that PWR barrel. :/
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Cool stuff, however I haven't heard very good thing about that PWR barrel. :/
Whatcha mean? Ive always seen PWR products as top notch in the industry, its the largest I can fit in my bay, believe it was rated for either 650hp or 750hp, dont remember off hand. Anywho that partnered with my over-sized water setup should run great. After all said and done should hold 8+ gallons & the pump flows 20 gallons per/min w/the ability to pack it up with ice. But please do share the wealth of knowledge as I am learning as i go but am set on wanting to run the air to water setup & from the research ive done should work perfectly fine for my goals however as mentioned...learning. Not a "whole" lot of info on water/air setups because it tends to be alot more expensive "depending on setup" to go this route as well as alot more work in the end. Air/Air would have been easier and cheaper but i like taking the hard road to success
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Finally a update: Just purchased the following shortblock to kick this build into gear

Benson Sleeved b18 short block
-Eagle Rods
-84mm CP 11:5 comp pistons
-LS Crank/Micropolished
-Type R oil pump
-Type R water pump

Now this block is already fully assembled however I'm having it shipped to Mike @ Laskey Racing to replace the 11:5 comp pistons with 10:1 CP pistons. 11:5 just seemed too high for my build regardless of fuel used to be on the safe side.

Now onto the head, ill be looking into which valves/springs/retainers to go with over the next week or so & go from there. Ill be using my stock type r head as the platform. I do "not" plan on port work but would like to strengthen it up with an aftermarket valve-train to handle the 9k rev's and power goal's.

This weekend the stock type R engine will be completely removed so i can remove the head & resell the shortblock. Pics on sunday! If time permits I will also be cleaning the bay up a bit to prep it for a respray. Wont be doing any crazy tuck or shaving but I will do some minor wire tucking and misc to clean the bay up & free some space, including moving my fuse box to the rear storage bins inside the cabin.
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Wow, nice build so far! Looks good!
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I have the same manifold but Im running A2A. Let me know if you need any help. Its a bitch routing everything around the manifold/turbo. I had to fab a custom radiator, make SS rad lines, custom SS clutch line, custom rad overflow.
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I have the same manifold but Im running A2A. Let me know if you need any help. Its a bitch routing everything around the manifold/turbo. I had to fab a custom radiator, make SS rad lines, custom SS clutch line, custom rad overflow.
Sounds good, i appreciate the help! I am going to do a little bit of mockup to check clearances this weekend before i pull the motor but most of it will have to be checked after I get the turbo here. Did you go over or under with your radiator hoses? Right now the rad hose/pipe has been cut/re-welded and angled down to clear the old s/c setup but im thinking I will most likely need to convert it to -AN lines at least for the top hose & run it under the manifold for the best clearance. -Thanks!
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I built a dual pass radiator with side facing ports and ran -16 AN hose out around the turbo above the passenger frame rail. And welded AN bungs to the water necks. Was a thousand dollar solution... ugh
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I built a dual pass radiator with side facing ports and ran -16 AN hose out around the turbo above the passenger frame rail. And welded AN bungs to the water necks. Was a thousand dollar solution... ugh
Ouch...honestly I think ill have plenty of radiator clearance between the manifold & radiator but I may try to lower the radiator by running the lower mounts off the full race traction bar, if i dropped it a couple of inches and went to -AN fittings I could/should be able to run the top hose right under the manifold. If needed i can switch my fan to a pusher for a tad more clearance but would prefer it to stay as a puller as id imagine this is more effective. Its a slim fan but i really wont know about total clearance until I order the turbo. Waiting on tax returns before I give the shodan a buzz for my order.

Are you running a t4 or t3 flange off the manifold? Mine has a t4 flange however I think im going to simply run a t4 to t3 adaptor and go with a Reaper vs a t4 "Reaper" turbo. T4 just seems overkill for my goals.
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You probably can run the top rad hose over the collector as long as there is enough clearance with the hood. But the bottom rad hose is a problem because the turbo is right in the path. Yours is going to have even more components in that area with the PWR.

I had to use a pusher fan on the front and my compressor housing still kisses the radiator. You may be able to clock it enough to clear.

I have a T3 GT3076R-13 with a S cover. I agree T4 is overkill for your goals. Did yours come with the polydine ceramic coating? Did you buy it used?
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You probably can run the top rad hose over the collector as long as there is enough clearance with the hood. But the bottom rad hose is a problem because the turbo is right in the path. Yours is going to have even more components in that area with the PWR.

I had to use a pusher fan on the front and my compressor housing still kisses the radiator. You may be able to clock it enough to clear.

I have a T3 GT3076R-13 with a S cover. I agree T4 is overkill for your goals. Did yours come with the polydine ceramic coating? Did you buy it used?
I bought it used and the previous owner had it coated but never actually used the manifold. I didn't want to ruin the coating by having the flange cut & a t3 welded so Im going to "try" to use an adapter and see if it fits. If not ill just suck it up and have it cut, rewelded & recoated.

Out of curiosity, do you have any pics of your setup? Id love to see how you mated everything in the bay to give me some ideas. Did you have hytech do your downpipe & turbo brace or a local shop? Im debating on mine, they quoted me a several month wait to do the downpipe, dumptube & turbo brace as well as i believe around $700 to do so.
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You definitely should try to keep the ceramic coating. Its expensive and it looks nice (for now). You can get T4 flanged turbine housings for medium sized turbos like the GT30 from ATP.
Yes I have hundrds of pictures. I dont want to take over your thread so here's just one overall view of the final setup.


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