***The Official JRSC Thread***
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Re: (rmcdaniels)
for anyone interested in I have a new jr water injection kit for 475$ shipped.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much you looking for the JRSC kit?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe he was asking 1700$
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much you looking for the JRSC kit?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe he was asking 1700$
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Re: (caranjo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how much you looking for the JRSC kit?</TD></TR></TABLE>
$1700 would be fine without the FMU.
how much you looking for the JRSC kit?</TD></TR></TABLE>
$1700 would be fine without the FMU.
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Re: (rmcdaniels)
If the seal on a JR pulley are moist, should i be worried??
Also, how much would it cost to replace the senor that connects the boost pressure gauge??
Also, how much would it cost to replace the senor that connects the boost pressure gauge??
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Re: (caranjo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the seal on a JR pulley are moist, should i be worried??
Also, how much would it cost to replace the senor that connects the boost pressure gauge??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, be worried, the seals should be dry.
Also, how much would it cost to replace the senor that connects the boost pressure gauge??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, be worried, the seals should be dry.
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Re: (caranjo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you have an idea as to what it might indicate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Typically the seals will go bad because of excessive shaft play due to bad bearings. It usually means it needs a rebuild.
Do you have an idea as to what it might indicate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Typically the seals will go bad because of excessive shaft play due to bad bearings. It usually means it needs a rebuild.
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Re: (HYREV2NR)
IM running the water injection and Im in the process of finding a way to inject straight water and nitrous threw the same port.Maybe using 2 jets Y'ed into one.
That with more boost will put me with them gosh darn turbo things, lol
That with more boost will put me with them gosh darn turbo things, lol
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Re: (93supercoupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IM running the water injection and Im in the process of finding a way to inject straight water and nitrous threw the same port.Maybe using 2 jets Y'ed into one.
That with more boost will put me with them gosh darn turbo things, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have always wondered if anyone had supercharged an ls/vtec. how do you like it? any times?
That with more boost will put me with them gosh darn turbo things, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have always wondered if anyone had supercharged an ls/vtec. how do you like it? any times?
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Re: (ninefivehatch)
its pretty quick, I raced a GSR hatch w/ a drag kit and beat it, I was on Falkens and he was streets.
he thing is that it has no intercooler, or BOV and has monster torgue, 3k up, im in range
he thing is that it has no intercooler, or BOV and has monster torgue, 3k up, im in range
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Re: (93supercoupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IM running the water injection and Im in the process of finding a way to inject straight water and nitrous threw the same port.Maybe using 2 jets Y'ed into one.
That with more boost will put me with them gosh darn turbo things, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
unless you plan on having the blower worked over(modded/ported)
i really wouldn't run anymore than maybe 1 more pound than you currently are..
or else you'll overheat the blower and ruin it
honestly I think ur at the proper boost levels as is.
modding the blower would be wicked on ur setup.
Any dyno or 1/4mile #'s ?? Stock bottom end?
That with more boost will put me with them gosh darn turbo things, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
unless you plan on having the blower worked over(modded/ported)
i really wouldn't run anymore than maybe 1 more pound than you currently are..
or else you'll overheat the blower and ruin it
honestly I think ur at the proper boost levels as is.
modding the blower would be wicked on ur setup.
Any dyno or 1/4mile #'s ?? Stock bottom end?
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Re: (Tad)
My setup (cant beleive I didnt see this thread)
B16A2 (stock internals)
JRSC 8 psi Pulley
CRV Crank pulley (shows about 12 psi)
Hondata 450cc
3BAR map sensor
AEM cam gears
TC's Performance custom intake and eshaust
NOS dry system (controlled by Hondata) with .018 jet (20 shot) after the blower
278whp@9200 RPM
165 torque.
Best time to date is in the sig @ LVMS in the heat. Cant wait to get the car to sea level for some real times. Best time off the bottle in Denver (6000 ft elevation) 13.40@102 off the bottle.
B16A2 (stock internals)
JRSC 8 psi Pulley
CRV Crank pulley (shows about 12 psi)
Hondata 450cc
3BAR map sensor
AEM cam gears
TC's Performance custom intake and eshaust
NOS dry system (controlled by Hondata) with .018 jet (20 shot) after the blower
278whp@9200 RPM
165 torque.
Best time to date is in the sig @ LVMS in the heat. Cant wait to get the car to sea level for some real times. Best time off the bottle in Denver (6000 ft elevation) 13.40@102 off the bottle.
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Re: (Tad)
I guess u can call the bottom end stock, it has P30 pistons w/ rod bolts.I think im gonna dyno it this weekend and get my base before i tear it down and add some real powa, all with the charger.
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my setup:
B18B
JRSC @ 10psi
355cc RC injectors
stock fuel pump
13lb flywheel
stock clutch
JR water injection
3" SRI
DC SS header w/ DEI wrap
2.5" catback
Uberdata tuned
it needs to be retuned after all the changes ive made.. hoping for mid 13s on streets after its all said and done..
last year, when i ran the kit with stock injectors, fmu and d16y7 ecu, it ran 14.2 w/ 2.0 60 ft on streets..
B18B
JRSC @ 10psi
355cc RC injectors
stock fuel pump
13lb flywheel
stock clutch
JR water injection
3" SRI
DC SS header w/ DEI wrap
2.5" catback
Uberdata tuned
it needs to be retuned after all the changes ive made.. hoping for mid 13s on streets after its all said and done..
last year, when i ran the kit with stock injectors, fmu and d16y7 ecu, it ran 14.2 w/ 2.0 60 ft on streets..
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curious to see the water temps you guys see with daily driving..
mine would be anywhere from 200-210F (this is without the water injection)..
anyone have #s with the water injection kit?
anyone running lower temp thermos??
mine would be anywhere from 200-210F (this is without the water injection)..
anyone have #s with the water injection kit?
anyone running lower temp thermos??
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Re: (Tad)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't have an air temp gauge,
but I've read from other ppl that they also see low 200's
thats really not that hot at all.
people talk about the jrsc having such a heat problem,
but it really doesnt, it actually does not heat up the air as much as a turbo does.
a non intercooled turbo setup would be much worse.
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Have you actually measured one? I have and I think you're wrong. Plus it's incredibly easy to intercool a turbo setup and get your air temps within a few degees of ambient. My JRSC setup ran at a bit over 200 degrees on a 80 degree day at 11 PSI at 8000 RPM.
I'm not doggng JRSC kits, but the Eaton blower is what it is, and it gets less efficient the more you wind it up where a properly configured turbo setup will be efficient up to redline. In an ideal world, I'd run a JRSC up to about 4000 RPM, then bypass it and let a turbo take over, because the turbo will suck off-idle where the Eaton blower excells.
but I've read from other ppl that they also see low 200's
thats really not that hot at all.
people talk about the jrsc having such a heat problem,
but it really doesnt, it actually does not heat up the air as much as a turbo does.
a non intercooled turbo setup would be much worse.
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Have you actually measured one? I have and I think you're wrong. Plus it's incredibly easy to intercool a turbo setup and get your air temps within a few degees of ambient. My JRSC setup ran at a bit over 200 degrees on a 80 degree day at 11 PSI at 8000 RPM.
I'm not doggng JRSC kits, but the Eaton blower is what it is, and it gets less efficient the more you wind it up where a properly configured turbo setup will be efficient up to redline. In an ideal world, I'd run a JRSC up to about 4000 RPM, then bypass it and let a turbo take over, because the turbo will suck off-idle where the Eaton blower excells.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This thread is going well, let's not turn it into a turbo vs supercharger thread. Some of us would rather have a JRSC rather than a turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
just what I was thinking.
hey what do you guys think about exhaust piping diameter??
I'm trying to decide what I should do from the axle back on my setup.
already got 2.25 to the axle, but I have to get my axleback rebuilt(hits my new swaybar) so i'm not sure whether to try and keep the piping all the same throughout.
or go up to 2.5" from the axle back??
just what I was thinking.
hey what do you guys think about exhaust piping diameter??
I'm trying to decide what I should do from the axle back on my setup.
already got 2.25 to the axle, but I have to get my axleback rebuilt(hits my new swaybar) so i'm not sure whether to try and keep the piping all the same throughout.
or go up to 2.5" from the axle back??
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Re: (Tad)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
just what I was thinking.
hey what do you guys think about exhaust piping diameter??
I'm trying to decide what I should do from the axle back on my setup.
already got 2.25 to the axle, but I have to get my axleback rebuilt(hits my new swaybar) so i'm not sure whether to try and keep the piping all the same throughout.
or go up to 2.5" from the axle back??</TD></TR></TABLE>
in the same boat , wondering the same?
Where are u ppl purchasing these water injection kits?
just what I was thinking.
hey what do you guys think about exhaust piping diameter??
I'm trying to decide what I should do from the axle back on my setup.
already got 2.25 to the axle, but I have to get my axleback rebuilt(hits my new swaybar) so i'm not sure whether to try and keep the piping all the same throughout.
or go up to 2.5" from the axle back??</TD></TR></TABLE>
in the same boat , wondering the same?
Where are u ppl purchasing these water injection kits?
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Re: (sharkcohen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This thread is going well, let's not turn it into a turbo vs supercharger thread. Some of us would rather have a JRSC rather than a turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That certainly wasn't my intent, and I don't think that any reasonable reading of my post would give that impression. I own both JRSC and turbo setups, which I've run on the street and at the track. They each have their strengths and weaknesses, and as much as we may prefer our JRSC setups, they have their good and bad points. Since Tad hasn't measured the outlet temps of either setup and I have, I thought it would be informative to let him know that thermal efficiency vs. a turbo setup is not necessarily one of the JRSC strong points. I think that a discussion of both the good and bad of JRSC setups is completely appropriate here. You don't have to agree with me, but let's not label me a JRSC basher. It's bad enough that I don't know how cams work.
That certainly wasn't my intent, and I don't think that any reasonable reading of my post would give that impression. I own both JRSC and turbo setups, which I've run on the street and at the track. They each have their strengths and weaknesses, and as much as we may prefer our JRSC setups, they have their good and bad points. Since Tad hasn't measured the outlet temps of either setup and I have, I thought it would be informative to let him know that thermal efficiency vs. a turbo setup is not necessarily one of the JRSC strong points. I think that a discussion of both the good and bad of JRSC setups is completely appropriate here. You don't have to agree with me, but let's not label me a JRSC basher. It's bad enough that I don't know how cams work.
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Right, well i've done it. I've gone and purchased my JRSC setup. I've bought a used 99-00 Civic Si JRSC with 8psi pulley, a used Hondata s100 w/boost, new 440c/c RC Injectors and a new Hondata IM gasket. Got everything for about $1800 posted to UK! Now fingers crossed everything works out and hopefully within a month everything will be fitted and fully tuned and i'll have a nice dyno graph to post.
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Re: (caranjo)
I have posted many times about Exhaust dia.
Apart from massive noise there is no gains from a good 2.5" exhaust to a 3".
On one of my dyno seesions with a Greddy SP2 on a CRX we made 262whp, we then dropped the exhaust and it picked up 3whp at 8000rpm.
My CRX made 290whp with w 2.5" catback with a mugen twin loop muffler.
We are dynoing another supercharged B18C5 tomorrow with the Kamakazi , SP2 and 8psi , I will post up the #s
Apart from massive noise there is no gains from a good 2.5" exhaust to a 3".
On one of my dyno seesions with a Greddy SP2 on a CRX we made 262whp, we then dropped the exhaust and it picked up 3whp at 8000rpm.
My CRX made 290whp with w 2.5" catback with a mugen twin loop muffler.
We are dynoing another supercharged B18C5 tomorrow with the Kamakazi , SP2 and 8psi , I will post up the #s
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Re: (superboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my setup:
B18B
JRSC @ 10psi
355cc RC injectors
stock fuel pump
13lb flywheel
stock clutch
JR water injection
3" SRI
DC SS header w/ DEI wrap
2.5" catback
Uberdata tuned
last year, when i ran the kit with stock injectors, fmu and d16y7 ecu, it ran 14.2 w/ 2.0 60 ft on streets.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
have you dynod? Whats your set up in? integra, civic...? I'm thinking of getting a jrsc for my b18b. I'm looking to get 180 whp+ and a low 14, high 13 sec run in the 1/4.
B18B
JRSC @ 10psi
355cc RC injectors
stock fuel pump
13lb flywheel
stock clutch
JR water injection
3" SRI
DC SS header w/ DEI wrap
2.5" catback
Uberdata tuned
last year, when i ran the kit with stock injectors, fmu and d16y7 ecu, it ran 14.2 w/ 2.0 60 ft on streets.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
have you dynod? Whats your set up in? integra, civic...? I'm thinking of getting a jrsc for my b18b. I'm looking to get 180 whp+ and a low 14, high 13 sec run in the 1/4.