miller

im also using the fluidapmer, did anybody have any problems with it fitting onto the crank??

Bulldogg83

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im also using the fluidapmer, did anybody have any problems with it fitting onto the crank??</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah the trick is that you have to put it on with the old crank bolt, zap it on there, then pull it off and put a new Honda one on there. That is what I was told to do, and it worked great. Don't forget to cut out your timing belt cover

wHOAlly

do they have a fluidampener with a/c?

Bulldogg83

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sp00n’d Supra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do they have a fluidampener with a/c? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup...I'm rocking it and it works great

Blown90hatcH

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sp00n’d Supra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do they have a fluidampener with a/c? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, hit up Arturbo for them

Arturbo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im also using the fluidapmer, did anybody have any problems with it fitting onto the crank??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Chris its a press fit. Kinda like the old V8 harmonic balancers.

miller

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Chris its a press fit. Kinda like the old V8 harmonic balancers.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah Art i figured it out after a little while, lol..i should be shootin to the dyno sunday morning right before the bbq, lookin for the magic #...thanks again on hte next day hook up.....Miller

Arturbo

Good deal miller.

Here is a thread I made a while ago on installing the RACE version pulley.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=825059

Here is the Street version.

The pulleys are sized identically to the factory ITR pulleys. The power steering portion is removable for applications where it's not required.
These units weigh 8.5 lbs. The weight was necessary for proper function with the small inertia diameter necessitated by the space occupied by belt grooves.

wHOAlly

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is the Street version.

The pulleys are sized identically to the factory ITR pulleys. The power steering portion is removable for applications where it's not required.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats so ****** perfect, pm me a price artuuurrrbo

rolow

Arturbo

What is the difference between the race version and the street version besides the power steering and a/c provisions?
I am looking into getting a Fluiamper for my street car. I only run an alternator. I'm trying to find out witch would be better for me.

Bulldogg83

just run the race version which only has the pulley for the alternator belt. Even if you get the street version pulley you can take the power steering/ac pulley off of it. That's what the allen wrench bolts are for on the outside so you can take them off.

doublej

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rolow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arturbo

What is the difference between the race version and the street version besides the power steering and a/c provisions?
I am looking into getting a Fluiamper for my street car. I only run an alternator. I'm trying to find out witch would be better for me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The physical size of the race dampr will likely be a problem in a street car that the street dampr solves. Art will take care of you.
Jim

E-Town4229

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is the Street version.

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me likey!
art or mr justice could someone pm me a price? thanks.
-Roger

b19coupe

Stock ITR on both of my motors.

Rick Solis

Whats available crank pulley wise for the H motors?

ranta18

Just the stock pully or Unorthodox Racing as far I know. I'd just run the stock one, but cut down.

Big Teggie

Single rib OEM pulley

POWERLINEDOHCtor

ctr right now on my street car.
sup Art its Ginuwinefitune from the Efi-101 forum.
can you also pm me a price on the Fluidamper for my race car.

DaveF

Modified by Dturbocivic at 3:03 PM 9/5/2004


Modified by Dturbocivic at 7:33 PM 9/5/2004

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use OE since I've seen two oil pumps destroyed with N1 and Unorthodox.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I fail to see how this N1 pulley can damage an oil pump.

DaveF

with the n1 an ur pully the unit is solid aluminum, therefore alowing the dampener to NOT absorb harmonic vibrations from the crank...

the stock crank pulley however has a "band" of "rubber" built into the pulley for this reason.

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the n1 an ur pully the unit is solid aluminum, therefore alowing the dampener to NOT absorb harmonic vibrations from the crank...

the stock crank pulley however has a "band" of "rubber" built into the pulley for this reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If thats the case, then why does the D15 use a solid metal pulley? I am having some machine work done right now at Comptech (they are local to me) and they are going to be using the N1 pulley on the engine I am building. Says the engine is internally balanced and they have never head of any problems with running the N1 pulley. Seems that they would know seen as how they are so heavy into racing.

JL

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I fail to see how this N1 pulley can damage an oil pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd like to know aswell.. running ctr N1 on ls/vtec. don't want problems!

D-Man

I heard some issues about fluiddampers that caused me to steer clear of them and go with ATIs


here goes some of the stuff I heard...this is coming from the Scat Crankshaft website

A word about vibration dampers
In our conversation, Tom Lieb gave us some great (though sure to be controversial) information about a subject directly related to the crankshaft and its survival in a race engine: vibration dampers. He was quick to point out that a very common cause of crankshaft failure is using the wrong damper, and is especially leery of any damper that has moving parts. "A damper is supposed to balance an engine. How can you do that when you have something moving on the damper?" Lieb went on to say "Any damper with moving parts, whether it is fluid or mechanical, is not recommended in a drag race engine. Anything that moves in the damper has inertia. When you quickly accelerate or decelerate the engine, that moving part of the damper slams one way or another and puts a lot of stress on the crankshaft. For an engine that runs in a very narrow rpm band and with very little change in engine speed, like an 18-wheeler or a car that drives on the highway at a constant speed, a damper with moving parts is fine, because it will find the frequency at a constant rpm and dampen the vibrations. But with a drag race engine that accelerates and decelerates fiercely, the engine will only have certain vibrations for a millisecond." For a drag racing engine, Lieb recommends the lightest, smallest damper possible, with an elastomer-type construction. "The rubber will sit there and hum, but it won't change location

also another thing I found for a little trivia..

Fluidamper does suggest that it will take about 30 seconds or so on a cold day (below 30degF) to lower the viscosity of the fluid so the inner ring spins freely.

Quik Chris

I'm not going to use the evolution pulley anymore, sfi just approved a new pulley, and it seems to be hot. Here's a pic of the new one.



Modified by Quik Chris at 11:08 PM 9/5/2004