streetsports1

i was wondering what kind of oil you guys are running in your trannies
ive got a liberty face plated gear set wanna know the best oil to use

thanks in advance

HR-1320

Redline light weight shock proof or heavy shock proof. $13 a quart

redboost10

redline heavy shockproof

turbotypeR@SPEC

Mobil1 75-90

xtremvw

look into Motul gear FF awesome stuff!

YZFR6

I don't run a Liberty, but I run Royal Purple gear oil 75-90.

fast is fun

red line light shock

Turbo-charged

when i got my gear set liberty suggested using synthetic valvoline 75-90. ran that for a while. autoparts store was out of it one time so i picked up some amsoil severe gear 75-90 and the noise level of the transmission was cut in half. been using that ever since.

change the fluid every trip to the track. gets expensive.

MFactory

And most of you guys are wondering why your trannies never last lol

Stick to transmission fluid. Honda MTF will be too thin for your application, so I would recommend Torco RTF

5thgearburnout

You CANNOT run redline shock proof if you run a quaife. I know this for a fact. The lubrication properties of the shock proof oil are to great which causes a lose of friction and the diff will not work properly. I had a few pretty harry rides due to the quaife searching from side to side.

redboost10

thats not what quaife told me

turbotypeR@SPEC

I used it back when I had a Quaife and it always worked fine.

1junkycivic

x2

Way less wear when switched to Redline shockproof

I never any problems,but I have a wavetrac

MFactory

Torsen Diffs don't work on the principal of friction, they are gear-type differentials and never lock. I would guess that something else was causing your problem, not the Redline.

In saying that though, we still recommend to all of our customers (and the trannies we build) NOT to use gear oil, they are too thick (i.e clog up the oil pathways) and the additives in some of these oils actually corrode the oem parts inside your tranny. Always use Transmission Fluid in a Honda Transmission.

Various companies have their own range of Performance Transmission Fluid available now, so it's not like a few years ago where you either had to use OEM **** Water or Aftermarket Poo in your tranny.

Here's an image of InDubs tranny after using Redline Lightweight Shockproof. Tell me what you see is wrong:



He made 11 hits (few of them 9.5x/9.6x @ 160+) with the tranny looking like this. 4th Gear, hub & slider were bone dry. The cause? The thick poo (remember, this was classified as "lightweight" gear oil) had clogged up the oil pathways, preventing the 4th gear assembly from getting lubricated sufficiently. InDub didn't know there was a problem until he found it hard trying to engage 4th gear, hence why we opened up the housing to see what was wrong.

1junkycivic

This an Mfactory gearset not a Liberty first off and how many other have done samething?Plus doesnt InDubs kills alot Parts.

MFactory

Doesn't matter if it is an MFactory gearset or a Liberty gearset, the transmission still uses oem parts and relies on the oil pathways to lubricate the gears. Honda transmissions were designed to use Transmission Fluid. Changing a gear set doesn't mean it isn't still a Honda Transmission.

We have seen many transmission failures, and with most of the cases, either incorrect installation or incorrect oil has been the culprit. Any Honda Transmission Specialist (and I mean specialist, not those who specialize in engine builds etc but just happen to do some tranny work as well) will give you the same recommendation as I have.

In regards to your comment about InDub, since running our gears, InDub has not broken anything (other than oem bearings) in over 60+ passes. The above image was due to blocked oil pathways, and was during his first 11 passes with his new tranny. This was fixed by running Transmission Fluid as recommended, as has done 40+ passes since.

1junkycivic

Pics of inside of other case half?Ill stick with the Redline oil and the OEM part left is what Bearings,forks and case correct? When using Liberty gearset.

MFactory

Why do you want to see the inside of the other case half? for what purpose would that serve? Nothing in the transmission was broken. All that needed to be done was give it a good clean and it was as good as new.

If you are determined to stick with Redline, then I'm not the one to stop you

This is only my "recommendation", which may or may not have any weight with you, but is based on the sole fact that Honda Transmissions were designed to run on Transmission Fluid, not thick Gear Oil. This has nothing to do with who the actual gears are made by.

As I said, there are several Oil Companies on the market now (including Redline) that offer their own Performance Transmission Fluid, so you do have a choice now

5thgearburnout

Thats weird because that is who told me not to use it. I know that when I swithched back to redline mtl my problems went away.

MFactory

Redlines version of Performance MTF is called MTL

1junkycivic

Oh well each to own.How can you speak for what Liberty wants used with their gearsets?Keep on topic What oil do people use with their Liberty gears not Mfactory.Im sure ive broken more of these gearset parts than most.Im saying my wear in trans was alot less when switching oils syncro verses faceplate different animals.

fast is fun

"This an Mfactory gearset not a Liberty first off and how many other have done samething"

Liberty has face plate engagement not synchronizer sleeves !

MTL is what you use in stock synchronizer

by the way I'm a red line dealer & sale & use a lot of it

MFactory

The OP wants to know what oils people run in their trannies i.e not specific to just Liberty

I did not bring up "MFactory" anywhere in my posts. I just posted up an example of what happens when you use "thick gear oil". This has nothing to do with the engagement type, be it synchronous or dog engagement. Without wanting to stoop into condescending remarks, I will refrain from trying to prove my point any further.

I'm not speaking for what Liberty wants used, I'm just giving my recommendation as a Honda Transmission Specialist. If you do not agree with me, I won't force you

1junkycivic

You have proven that your gearsets dont like thick oil thats what those pics are of correct?

MFactory

?!?!?!? This has nothing to do with our gearset, or what ever gearset is used. It is still a Honda Transmission, and is recommended to run on Transmission Fluid (i.e MTF. RTF or MTL, whatever the manufacturer wants to call it), not Gear Oil. Friction Modifiers is what is concerned when you talk about engagement type, but that is irrelevant here and not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about lubrication, and how the transmission responds to different thickness' of oils.

Seriously, I'm not going to try to prove my point any further, as it is bad business practice to make condescending remarks on a public forum