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Old 02-16-2010, 02:14 PM
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Default Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

FUEL FILTERS AND E85.
what filters are you guys running and what micron filters before and after pumps??
any problems with clogging ect?
Old 02-16-2010, 02:16 PM
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use the metal screened filters, we are using aeromotive filters, just one before the pump, 40 micron.

the cellulose paper filters WILL clog with e85
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

I use the aeromotive filters as well
Old 02-16-2010, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

only 40 micron aeromotive i can find is paper? stainless is 100?
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

thats what im running, just checked out in the garage. 40 micron is on the other car with c16
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

you are supposed to run 100 micron before the pump, you run the risk of cavitation if you do not. I run the SS 100m before and the SS 40m after the pump, all aeromotive with e85.

well i guess i was thinking about something else. I guess Bosch's can take a finer filter before the pump.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

So i could use a standard filter after the pump 10 micron?
best manufacturer for a higher micron before the pump? im running two bosch pumps so would need two of each filters
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

you can run a 10 micron but it has to be a stainless element.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

Whatever you do decide to use make sure its a stainless element, IDK what to use as a pre-filter but I ran a 40 micron Summitt filter as a post filter and it worked just fine and it was cheap. Make sure you check the screens a lot at first, I have noticed Ethanol will strip the gunk in your system and clog up the screens..... It seems to gradually go away with time.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

what supplier will ship to england?
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

Originally Posted by CHRIS S
what supplier will ship to england?
We stock aeromotive filters and ship internationally.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
you are supposed to run 100 micron before the pump, you run the risk of cavitation if you do not. I run the SS 100m before and the SS 40m after the pump, all aeromotive with e85.

well i guess i was thinking about something else. I guess Bosch's can take a finer filter before the pump.
actually youre sopose to use 25 micron pre filter as the screen under the inlet is 25 micron. 10 micron after but those will have to be paper. at least thats what i run as recommended by my boy at kfi.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

ive had good info off a few people here in england that have used e85 with paper elements??
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

I hear paper filters milk up specially when you switch fuels gas to e85.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

i used a paper filter with E85 for a while, but i did notice a brownish substance on the injector. So i switched to the 40micron stainless.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

im using 2 earls filter (85 microns) before and one aeromotive after the pump (10 microns).

sump
2 earls filters (85 microns) 10an
2 044
a Y (2)8an to a 10an
aeromotive 10an (10 microns).

hope this helped.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

Is the 10 micron element paper? Had any probs with E85? How often do u check it?
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

I talked to a rep at Kinsler and they said, some do not have problems and some do. When i ran mine with mysetup i didnt really have any problems but im not sure where the brown substance came from it was gummy. My guess was the glue holding the element together
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

So is this what most ppl are running:


Surge tank > ----- 100 micron >---- 044 > ----\ ____ Y Piece > ---- 40 micron filter --------------> Fuel rail
.................. >------ 100 micron>---- 044 >-----/


Are the pre pump filters necessary? You could have 1 filter at the surge tank fill line? Could check valves be used to keep steady pressure to rail?

These seem to be fairly cheap and compact http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-650133/ .
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

on all our fuel injected race cars, we just run a filter before the pump. on our carb cars, we usually stick a second filter near the carb as well as before the pump.

those small filters are what we use right before the carb, but i would stay away from them on a fuel injected car.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

Has anyone ran a check valve for the Bosch pumps?
Like this one: http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=226

The reason I'm asking, is I'm wanting to run Dual Bosch's in Parrallel coming from a -10 sump. I once ran just 1 bosch from the sump and I remember the pump being pretty loud. The next setup I ran was a Walboro 255 feeding a Bosch pump, and the bosch pump was a lot quieter because of the feed from the walboro.
I'm just seeing if anyone ran this high flow check valve and if they like it.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

How many people are running the check valves?
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

can i use earl's 35micron before rail ? with this brown something inside with e85?
http://www.earls.co.uk/earls/fuelsys...andvalves.html
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

No matter what filter i've used, i have gotten brownish black residue on the inlet of the injectors and intake tract. When i first started running E85 i used to clean the filter every oil change and it got better over time. This was with aeroquip hose, a walbro 255 intank and this 10 micron filter in a 20 year old 250k+ mile car.
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Default Re: Fuel filters and E85 Dual 044 setup

Originally Posted by ahobbs
i used a paper filter with E85 for a while, but i did notice a brownish substance on the injector. So i switched to the 40micron stainless.
Where did you get the 40 micron ss??

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