BMC Race Intake Manifold
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BMC Race Intake Manifold
so a little ways back i was poking around and came across some prototype photo's of the bmc race intake manifold, and immediately picked up the phone to see what was up with it and placed an order for one before they were even finished. spoke with james on a regular basis on updates, etc and today the manifold arrived. figured i'd put up a thread just to show some pictures of it along with my first impressions. lets see how long it takes before the guys who never have anything positive to say come and run their mouths haha
shipment: probably should have taken some pictures, but i just wanted to rip it open and see what was up. the manifold shipped disassembled and each individual part of the manifold was wrapped separately and nice. i swear it took me 20 min. to open the thing, but i was already impressed with the packaging haha
visual: the manifold is BIG, but proportional. the plenum doesnt look "too big" or out of place etc. i like it a lot. i dont really know why, but i have always been a big fan of angled throttle body's on the plenum. the few half ***'ed manifolds i have built have always had the angled flange.
on to the stuff you sorta have to have the manifold in front of you to be able to tell:
what everything looks like taken apart
o-rings in the intake ports
runners and plenum o-rings
so one of the biggest things i was anxious to see if i liked it or hated it was the fitment etc of the runners going into the head flange and the plenum. i dont really know how to describe it will...but the closed thing i can compare it to is fuel injectors...... everybody has installed a set of injectors into a fuel rail where everything fit totally perfect....and you have to kinda wiggle it in and all the sudden you feel it "click" into place and you KNOW its perfect..... that is how all 8 peices of the manifold popped together. picture perfect fit. after i pushed the first runner into the head flange i was totally satisfied.
its a shame the top of the plenum isnt clear, and you cant see the angled stacks on the inside. super hard to get a picture of but this is what you can see
throttle body flange.... this was pretty cool to me. its not just a flat piece of metal with a big flat hole and 4 threaded holes. the flange is tapered on the inside and meets up with all 4 walls of the plenum nicely.
bottom of plenum, vacuum ports- there is a TON of them. no need for a vacuum manifold, and they are in a nice beefy part of the plenum so they have plenty of threads. i was actually surprised to see provision for a factory honda air temp sensor too!
runners pushed into the plenum and head flange
here are the bolts that hold the plenum and head flange together. i like how they are recessed a bunch so you dont have to worry about them getting in the way of anything
plenum by its self
few of it all put together
this head flange is serious. it had to have started life out as a BIG piece of aluminum. 8 injectors, 1 fuel rail, and i had them put 1/8th npt threads where the factory injectors go just as thats the most universal fitting size ever for whatever the hell you want to put there
i forgot to bring the fuel rail inside with me so i can take some pictures of that tomorrow
so my first impressions of the manifold is that the build quality is great. this thing has to have a TON of machine time into it. of all of the "machined" parts i have bought over the years....the price these are selling for doesnt seem to add up compared to other parts out there. each surface of the manifold has a bunch of machine work into it, even the individual stacks appear to have a ton of time into them. every surface appears to have been milled after assembly too.
obviously i have not gotten to use this yet, we plan on putting it on the flow bench with in the next week hopefully just as i personally want to check individual cylinder flow to make sure they are similar more so than anything else. also hopefully planning on trying it out on a couple different set ups. and hopefully using a couple of the other version of the manifold on some different set ups.
i think its only fair to point out the "flaws" (if you want to call them that) with a post like this... so here goes
i was impatient and had him put it in a box the second it was done, so there was still some coolant etc in the fuel rail. will take a couple min to clean. i blame myself for that
same deal....there are a couple big finger prints on it i have to clean off lol
there are no provision for a throttle cable on the manifold. most of the mustang style throttle body's are very easy to make a cable bracket off of that.... or simply making your own bracket and welding it to the back side of the plenum will be much nicer than a generic bracket IMO. the magnus manifold had a chunk of aluminum welded to it with some drilled/threaded holes on it. i didnt care for that much at all so i actually prefer nothing that that.....but for the average guy that could be an issue....but anybody who is building a set up that needs a manifold like this probably knows somebody that can make them a bracket haha
steel hardware. i dotn think it matters as you cant see the hardware at all...but stainless would be nice....however it would obviously bring the cost up a bit
maybe some plugs etc for the ports on the plenum? it comes with the coolant block off ports. again i understand why they dont include those...it will be more money and most people will be using most of the holes and everybody has a different preference on what they use. some use rubber hose, some push lock, and some stainless braided. leave them out, keep the price just that much lower, and let the end user figure out what he wants to do.
ultimately i am really happy with this manifold...i hope it performs as good as it looks. now that i have one in my hands and get to check it out, i dont see why it wouldnt work. pretty anxious to see how the individual cylinder's compare with one another on the flow bench!
shipment: probably should have taken some pictures, but i just wanted to rip it open and see what was up. the manifold shipped disassembled and each individual part of the manifold was wrapped separately and nice. i swear it took me 20 min. to open the thing, but i was already impressed with the packaging haha
visual: the manifold is BIG, but proportional. the plenum doesnt look "too big" or out of place etc. i like it a lot. i dont really know why, but i have always been a big fan of angled throttle body's on the plenum. the few half ***'ed manifolds i have built have always had the angled flange.
on to the stuff you sorta have to have the manifold in front of you to be able to tell:
what everything looks like taken apart
o-rings in the intake ports
runners and plenum o-rings
so one of the biggest things i was anxious to see if i liked it or hated it was the fitment etc of the runners going into the head flange and the plenum. i dont really know how to describe it will...but the closed thing i can compare it to is fuel injectors...... everybody has installed a set of injectors into a fuel rail where everything fit totally perfect....and you have to kinda wiggle it in and all the sudden you feel it "click" into place and you KNOW its perfect..... that is how all 8 peices of the manifold popped together. picture perfect fit. after i pushed the first runner into the head flange i was totally satisfied.
its a shame the top of the plenum isnt clear, and you cant see the angled stacks on the inside. super hard to get a picture of but this is what you can see
throttle body flange.... this was pretty cool to me. its not just a flat piece of metal with a big flat hole and 4 threaded holes. the flange is tapered on the inside and meets up with all 4 walls of the plenum nicely.
bottom of plenum, vacuum ports- there is a TON of them. no need for a vacuum manifold, and they are in a nice beefy part of the plenum so they have plenty of threads. i was actually surprised to see provision for a factory honda air temp sensor too!
runners pushed into the plenum and head flange
here are the bolts that hold the plenum and head flange together. i like how they are recessed a bunch so you dont have to worry about them getting in the way of anything
plenum by its self
few of it all put together
this head flange is serious. it had to have started life out as a BIG piece of aluminum. 8 injectors, 1 fuel rail, and i had them put 1/8th npt threads where the factory injectors go just as thats the most universal fitting size ever for whatever the hell you want to put there
i forgot to bring the fuel rail inside with me so i can take some pictures of that tomorrow
so my first impressions of the manifold is that the build quality is great. this thing has to have a TON of machine time into it. of all of the "machined" parts i have bought over the years....the price these are selling for doesnt seem to add up compared to other parts out there. each surface of the manifold has a bunch of machine work into it, even the individual stacks appear to have a ton of time into them. every surface appears to have been milled after assembly too.
obviously i have not gotten to use this yet, we plan on putting it on the flow bench with in the next week hopefully just as i personally want to check individual cylinder flow to make sure they are similar more so than anything else. also hopefully planning on trying it out on a couple different set ups. and hopefully using a couple of the other version of the manifold on some different set ups.
i think its only fair to point out the "flaws" (if you want to call them that) with a post like this... so here goes
i was impatient and had him put it in a box the second it was done, so there was still some coolant etc in the fuel rail. will take a couple min to clean. i blame myself for that
same deal....there are a couple big finger prints on it i have to clean off lol
there are no provision for a throttle cable on the manifold. most of the mustang style throttle body's are very easy to make a cable bracket off of that.... or simply making your own bracket and welding it to the back side of the plenum will be much nicer than a generic bracket IMO. the magnus manifold had a chunk of aluminum welded to it with some drilled/threaded holes on it. i didnt care for that much at all so i actually prefer nothing that that.....but for the average guy that could be an issue....but anybody who is building a set up that needs a manifold like this probably knows somebody that can make them a bracket haha
steel hardware. i dotn think it matters as you cant see the hardware at all...but stainless would be nice....however it would obviously bring the cost up a bit
maybe some plugs etc for the ports on the plenum? it comes with the coolant block off ports. again i understand why they dont include those...it will be more money and most people will be using most of the holes and everybody has a different preference on what they use. some use rubber hose, some push lock, and some stainless braided. leave them out, keep the price just that much lower, and let the end user figure out what he wants to do.
ultimately i am really happy with this manifold...i hope it performs as good as it looks. now that i have one in my hands and get to check it out, i dont see why it wouldnt work. pretty anxious to see how the individual cylinder's compare with one another on the flow bench!
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Re: BMC Race Intake Manifold
has to be one of the best manifolds ive seen in a while...cant wait for results, im starting a new build and had this manifold in mind since i seen it in the fab section.
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Re: BMC Race Intake Manifold
haha yea it will be fine, i'll try to clean it tomorrow!
just feel i should post this picture from the first time i saw the manifold
just feel i should post this picture from the first time i saw the manifold
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I thought those were your finger prints that made that mess.
Looks good, nice to see someone else making manifolds.
So what car are you putting this on?
Looks good, nice to see someone else making manifolds.
So what car are you putting this on?
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yes sir! this one is a stage 2. they also have a stage 1 and stage 3. the stage 1 is cheap, and from the drawings i have seen of it, it looks just as nice just a little smaller and tamer. would be perfect for what your doing. if i remember correctly its still bigger than an edelbrock.
ps. your damper showed up yesterday
ps. your damper showed up yesterday
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I'm not too fond of the vac port placement. Under the velocity stack might not be the best position for them, but I'm sure it will still work.
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i'm gonna make a copy of your fingerprint and use it in a murder. csi can make pixelated images extremely clear, so i can do that too, right? j/k
whats the pricing on this?
whats the pricing on this?
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