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Old 07-14-2004, 05:32 PM
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I heard there is technology, on a car with stick, which allows you to switch gears without having to use the clutch. This is not the first time i have heard this. I was wondering if anyone else have heard of it and if it is real what is it called.
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I usually don't clutch to shift once i'm moving.

I really only use my clutch when racing and leaving stops.

so i gues the new technology is called "learning to do it"
Old 07-14-2004, 05:54 PM
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Video games have that technology, sorta neat-o........haha, I made a funny, get it, NEAT-O
Old 07-14-2004, 06:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89s1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I usually don't clutch to shift once i'm moving.

I really only use my clutch when racing and leaving stops.

so i gues the new technology is called "learning to do it"</TD></TR></TABLE>


????? must be great four your trans
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They are called called dog gears.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


????? must be great four your trans</TD></TR></TABLE>

learn to spell... and drive. it's not bad at all. all it means is that EVERY shift i make is perfectly rev-matched. In all honesty I would say that it is good for the trans. It never grinds or complains... It just does what a tranny is supposed to.

the fact that the clutch is out means that all the insides of that tranny are spinning at the same speed as the engine. and when needing to shift, all the parts are already at the same rpm they need to be to accept the new gear. I could teach any of you to do it, but there are probably quite a few people here that do it as well.
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I agree with 89s1... I just taught my girlfrind how to upshift and downshift without the clutch.
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i wanna know how, didnt know it was possible
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http://www.takakaira.com/perfo...n.asp

http://www.takakaira.com/asp/t...hdkGf

i suppose this is what you are looking for
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Default Re: Is this real??!?! (rpj2k)

You are thinking of a sequential transmission. Most commonly they use dog-engagement gears, but there are several large auto manufacturers offering this on standard sychro transmissions. Ferarri has offered transmissions of this type for years.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with 89s1... I just taught my girlfrind how to upshift and downshift without the clutch. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89s1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

learn to spell... and drive. it's not bad at all. all it means is that EVERY shift i make is perfectly rev-matched. In all honesty I would say that it is good for the trans. It never grinds or complains... It just does what a tranny is supposed to.

the fact that the clutch is out means that all the insides of that tranny are spinning at the same speed as the engine. and when needing to shift, all the parts are already at the same rpm they need to be to accept the new gear. I could teach any of you to do it, but there are probably quite a few people here that do it as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how can it be good for your trans if you never press in your clutch at all while shifting??just jam the shifter up and down andnever touch the clutch pedal
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looks like what lot of rally teams use
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheHooded_Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How??</TD></TR></TABLE> By matching rpm's.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> By matching rpm's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

all you have to do it wait for the right rpm and the shifter basically slides out of gear. then wait till the rpms drop slightly and the shifter will, again, slide into gear.

and to downshift. wait till the rpms are at the right speed, slide it out of gear, give some gas so the rpms rise, and it should go back into the selected gear.
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um, you're talkinga bout teh gozigen unit that has a push button to move the fluid to release the clutch, no?
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I learned to shift clutch-less when my pilot baring went out and had to wait till the next week to get the whole ***. replaced .
What this is simply matching the tranny rpms with the engine rpms.

Upshifting: Simply let off the gas slowly and pull on the shift lever untill it slips out gear. Still letting off the gas, gently guide it into second-dont jam it in there.

Downshifting: Pretty much upsifting, just in reverse order. Let off the gas slowly untill the shift lever will easily sip out of gear, then, instead of letting off the gas continuously, gently rev the engine, untill you can select the next lower gear. This act is called "double clutching", and is used alot in road racing, as you can imagine.

This takes time and practice to master, but eventually you will find the "sweet spots". This is defenitly something to learn in case something ever happens and you need to drive somewhere to get it fixed.

Now, granted this was on my stock ls tranny, so im sure its different on different style trannys.
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i use to drive without pressing on teh clutch to shift, but it seems to boring for me. i need to use my left foot
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