head bolts torque question
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I wouldn't use oem head bolts once there removed, they will stretch. Just replace them or use aftermarket ARP studs.
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I suspect the it takes a couple times at least to stretch the bolts beyond use depending on which bolt.
The original bolts for the 88-95 non v-tecs were a lesser grade bolt and when the gasket leaks, Honda does have a TSB saying to replace those. So far that's the only ones I've personally seen that Honda says to not reuse.
Check your FSM and see if Honda says to replace the head bolts, if it doesn't you can quite likely use them one more time safely as most people do without issue.
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I've reused set quite a few times but after I'd say the 3rd or 4th time, you can feel the bolts don't have the same stretch to them as they once did. I don't recall the FSM specifying to replace them (they're not torque to yield bolts) but I'd say replace them with studs or new bolts just for peace of mind.
Studs also reduce the risk of thread damage in the block.
Studs also reduce the risk of thread damage in the block.
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I've reused set quite a few times but after I'd say the 3rd or 4th time, you can feel the bolts don't have the same stretch to them as they once did. I don't recall the FSM specifying to replace them (they're not torque to yield bolts) but I'd say replace them with studs or new bolts just for peace of mind.
Studs also reduce the risk of thread damage in the block.
Studs also reduce the risk of thread damage in the block.
I especially appreciate the stud reasoning. Aluminum threads can only take so much.
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If anything, it demonstrates they recommend replacing bolts that rarely need replacing (the suspension bolts) so it goes to show they are not concerned with reusing the head bolts which get a lot more torture with heat as you pointed out.
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Re: head bolts torque question
Wasn't a direct analogy as much as demonstrating that Honda recommends replacements of all kinds of things, but not head bolts in their factory service manuals.
If anything, it demonstrates they recommend replacing bolts that rarely need replacing (the suspension bolts) so it goes to show they are not concerned with reusing the head bolts which get a lot more torture with heat as you pointed out.
If anything, it demonstrates they recommend replacing bolts that rarely need replacing (the suspension bolts) so it goes to show they are not concerned with reusing the head bolts which get a lot more torture with heat as you pointed out.
But honestly Op, like others said spend the 100 bucks on a set of ARP and sleep well at night. Ive seen others say GE studs are better, but i personally have never used them.
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