cartune network

hey guys i cant make up my mind when it comes to choosing cams.

my setup is as follows:
b18c1 bottom end
81.5mm JE 12.5:1 pistons
eagle h-beam rods
balnced and lightened crank
acl bearings
arp bolts
block guard

this is all on stock sleeves.

the head is a b16 head and its gonna be ported by headgames
im looking to drive the car on the street everynow and then so im looking for a cam thats going to be the best of both worlds.

i left the poll section open so if anyone has any reccomendations they can make there own poll.
if u guys vote can u please leave a response.

thanx,
Kyle


Modified by cartune network at 9:08 PM 9/9/2007

UncleD

iTrader: (2)

Ummm, the M25's are going to be a bit overkill for that motor. I would suggest M22's.

cartune network

m22's are small compard to the two i mentioned. u really think that the m22's would make more power over the m25's or the bc4's with my setup?

UncleD

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M22's are actually a bit larger than the BC4's. Don't get caught up in advretised specs.

Gsrflyboy

I essentially have the same motor in progress, and would like someone to sell me on these RM cams over the Pro series skunks! I've seen dyno charts and read threads, I want to be sold on why I should buy these cams!!! What makes them worth my money!!!

cartune network

well same here. i have heard really good thingd about these cams but no one has really sold me on them. dyno graphs would be nice

blacK_Dc4

i would think the m25 is too big for your 1.8L .. although i could use a bigger cam , the m22's are doing fine in my 2.0L .. dont get caught by false information out there , u dont jus up the compression a little and run the biggest cam u can find if u want usable power ... M22's also gets my vote

mar778c

iTrader: (1)

m22 or BC4.

Fyi, the BC4 is like a s2s2.

SkankyEJ7

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">m22 or BC4.

Fyi, the BC4 is like a s2s2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

eh not really the bc4 has a bigger secondary lobes i believe, but the top end should be fairly close

mar778c

iTrader: (1)

I really don't know about the secondaries but the primaries (vtec lobes) are nearly the same.

cartune network

thanx guys for the info. ok so its between m22's and skunk 2 pro2's. would any body reccomend the m24's over the m22's or am i just being retarded and over camming this thing?

i obviously want to get the most power out of it but idunno much about the whole choosing of cams.

blacK_Dc4

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cartune network &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanx guys for the info. ok so its between m22's and skunk 2 pro2's. would any body reccomend the m24's over the m22's or am i just being retarded and over camming this thing?

i obviously want to get the most power out of it but idunno much about the whole choosing of cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>

try the m22xx or pro 1's .. fyi , i m using the m22x on my 2.0L setup

Aquafina

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M22XX

Teamdiesel

Dyno Dave

I sell/install/tune both of these companys cams and picking either M22x or BC spec4 cams you will get great results in your engine if the tuner knows there job,both of those cams are great as a DD and will run good numbers on the track if the rest of your setup is there.You can see by the support that the Rockets are a favorate of many people on here and that is for a very good reason.
Regards Dyno Dave

Aquafina

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teamdiesel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been doing TONS of reading on the m22x cams, and have come to the conclusion, from careful analysis that they are a hit and miss cam. Far more people that have used these cams were displeased than the few that found them adequate.
The graphs that I have analyzed so far for this cam are from many different setups, and only three were slightly impressive. That may be due to the fact that two of them are 2.0 lt engines with some sick compression and mad supporting mods.
I just want to put my view foward that these cams are seriously overhyped. If you don't believe me, then do a search in archives for "M22x" and 80 % of the hits are people SELLING these cams. The were fooled by the hype and have no choice but to sell.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Doesn't sound like you were thourough enough.

Teamdiesel

Do the search and you will find out how much of a favourite it is when you see a 80%-20% sell/buy ratio.

kpowerdhatch

pro 1's. Everyone always wants to overcam their motor. also what kind of intake manifold/tb are you running?

Teamdiesel

My BONE STOCK JDM ITR motor with 150K on it with damaged rings, put down 175/125 on a dynojet. I have seen couple dynos of M22x cammed B18's with lots of supporting mods put down ONLY 184/122. I mean that is down right pitiful. A prime example of such a build is DINKO. I mean its good that you guys cheer him on, but you also need to be truthful and let him know that his build is weak. He needs to throw in another set of cams and retune to see better results.

Teamdiesel

I see he put down a 13.9 with his build, and that is somewhat ok, but there was a guy that did 13.8 with his Skunk stage 1 cams, installed some m22x's and tuned but couldn't get better than 14.0. I put down 13.8 in a full interior ITR with a 260 lb driver, on ITR CAMS,with just a profab header and a CAI.

Teamdiesel

this one is my all time favourite.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1927420

Teamdiesel

Soon from now cleanrice is going to bring up that one dyno of the M22x vs the Pro1 cams, or maybe the amazing one with the m22x making over 200whp on a bone stock Type R withe just a 2.0lt DTR header. I am tired of seeing the same dyno sheets. If these cams are as explosive as you say, show me some happy customer's high horsepower, respectable torqued dyno graph. I have read from too many disappionted customers for me to be fooled by the HYPE!


Modified by Teamdiesel at 7:40 PM 9/11/2007

bluedlude

nah, i think you are all about the hype. what about all these happy people? compare that setup to the one in the link you posted.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2090218

a shitty builder, is a shitty builder, is a shitty builder.

Teamdiesel

Three out of those six people Strongly support or SELL the product. what do you expect. NEXT!

IntegraType-R

pretty happy with my s2s2's on my 11.8 CR stock usdm itr block. i can assure you.. these cams are good and make great power.