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Old 11-30-2001, 10:59 AM
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Default NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!?

I need to know what speed rating i need to get on the Kumho Escta Supra 712's? V or Z speed rating? discount tire said they only had the V rating. What should I do?
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (onyx00)

well ask yourself are you going to go 160 mph if yes then go somewhere else
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (onyx00)

What should I do?
buy some azenis.

nah, seriously though, speed rating doesn't matter much. i've had the 712's... didn't really like them at all. running azenis now. not enough mileage for an opinion though...
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (D)

The Falkens are backordered to hell; I can't get them from anywhere!

Unless you guys know of someone....

Otherwise, what tires would you suggest then? I need something soon, my RE010's are wasted.
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ratings don't matter especially between V and Z.

i say get azenis... i also have the 712s and don't like them.... but still ok for all year tires in Cali.
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (tjtruong)

Once again, THE AZENIS ARE BACKORDERED GUYS!

Unless someone can tell me where someone has them in stock, the Azenis are out.
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (onyx00)

To answer your question...

Unless you are running 19's.... the choices are V and W

The 205/50WR15 86W SL 280 AA A has a lower t.w. rating than the 205/55VR15 88V SL 340 AA A

So... I would pick the W tire

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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (Willard)

FYI - when I ordered W-rated Ecsta 712's from the tirerack, they actually sent me Z-rated 712's. They say the labels are the same. Weird, eh?

btw, I like my 712's for my commuteR. Surely does a good job in the rain.
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (onyx00)

Once again, THE AZENIS ARE BACKORDERED GUYS!

Unless someone can tell me where someone has them in stock, the Azenis are out.
maybe http://www.vulcantire.com ? They say low stock but maybe a couple from there and a couple from http://www.discounttiredirect.com ? They really are tons better than the 712's... if you can get any
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (Xian)

And http://www.victoriatire.com cali
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I got my 712's in a Z rated tire. I asked for the W compound, but oh well.

V's are fine for everyday driving.

BTW, the kumho's are EXCELLENT in the rain. I am highly impressed.
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (Cosworth)

STAY AWAY from the 712.... Cheap tires... Cheap performance! That's all you'll get! I bought a set, and I really don't like them!

They look good that's all...
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (B18C-EJ1)

OK guys- here's the scoop:
A Z rated tire is for sustained speeds above 149 mph. W is a subclassification of Z up to 168 mph, as is the Y rating, up to 186 mph. See the chart: (sorry for the formatting mess, read left to right) - courtesy http://www.tiresafety.com/size_class/size_nav2a.htm
SPEED RATINGS CHART
SPEED SYMBOL SPEED MPH SPEED KPH
M 81 130
N 87 140
P 93 150
Q 99 160
R 106 170
S 112 180
T 118 190
U 124 200
H 130 210
V*(VR) 149 240
W**(ZR) 168 270
Y**(ZR) 186 300
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Default Re: NEED HELP ASAP ON KUMHO TIRES, V OR Z SPEED RATING!?!? (onyx00)

I just threw z-rated Ecsta 712's on my car, and it was a HUGE difference from the stock michelins Im real happy with them, I dont see what everyone is complaining about, I love mine!
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