Promina

Ok here's the deal... I've been planning on a LS/VTEC build, but now I'm torn on the direction to go. I've been talking with LAN, who has a H22 setup and seems to like it. Now I've been looking at the various other series of Honda motors to get to make nice N/A numbers. This would be a daily driver and really don't plan to go to a turbo build and would like to get aleast 200 whp. So with that said, which motor would alot of you go with, K type R, H type S, B Type R, or LS/VTEC. Also this would be going into a DB7 1995 SE. So if any of you guys have any setups like this, please hit this thread....

T"u"Rtle

Here's the first step to take, U READY?? U SURE??

1. RESEARCH,

let me say it again

RESEARCH

dude this question is like asking a girl which position she wants to get it in all are just as good as the other but each also has its flaws. If you've got 15g's in order to do a K20-R then what do you think everybodies gonna say to go do that one, but if your asking a stupid *** question like this then more than likely you do not have the money and your are simply dreaming.

Lan

H2B

iH8RICERZ

iTrader: (1)

k20R FTW!!!!!! You should definately see some of the video's floatin around the net and h-t of k20's in tegs and civics!

2.2 teg

I was once in similar situation, had a stock GSR and was looking for more power. My options were:
- LS/Vtec turbo
- H22a
- K20

Here's what I came up with. Sold my GSR motor for $2200. Could go LS Longblock for about $800 to my door. Plent of money left over for the vtec assembly and some for turbo. BUT, I didnt have all the money right away
H22a cost me $2500 with LSD. or K20 for about $5600. Aftermarket performance parts would be more expensive for the K20 b/c it's a newer motor. With the money you'd save from going K to H, could buy you a nice turbo set-up or would be plenty to get you over 200whp all motor.
My choice was clear, H22a. I'm very happy with this motor. pretty simple to install into my teg, considering me and my friend put one in his civic 1 week prior. The power and torque this motor produces for how much it cost is second to none. I hope I have givin you an incentive to go H, and good luck with it!

Promina

I've researched and researched again... that's why I figured I get some options...

Lan

I can attest to that

Promina

Duce_Duce Teg it does help, from most of the threads I've talked to alot of them said H22 for price and power out put...

skunked

there is allot of factors to consider in this decesion.

Are you going to install the swap?
Do you mind cutting a hole for the shifter and cables (H & K series)?
What is your budget?

T"u"Rtle

well like your friend Lan said H2B baby i had a H22 hatch and the thing that always held me back was that gay *** H22 tranny always ******* up. If you do a clean *** swap to H22 with the H2B then that would be a bad *** swap. But once you got H22 you cannot go back to B series because of the modifications its going to require in order to put that motor in.

skunked

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nah, it's not that bad......I did it

Lan

Ya, you can put the 'B' back in, I'll need to weld the tranny mount on someday when I go H2B .

Promina

well whatever I choose will be staying the car for quite awhile, but I would be installing the swap with some help, cutting a hole did bother me at first, but something got to go if I want more power, and budget... that's got to give too if I want more power... LoL...

Lan

Ummm. Just make sure you don't do this-

skunked

if you want more power I would go with the H22. My stock motor made 199/164 open header with bolt ons and now 220whp with the bigger cams (still stock longblock).

Forget about the K if your on a budget IMO.

Promina

So far the H seemed to be to best bet... does anyone know who makes the kit to keep PS and AC?

skunked

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hcp makes the AC compressor mount that uses the integra AC system. For the PS you need the Prelude PS pump and you need to make some custom lines that mate the stock ps lines to the prelude ps pump. I have never done it personally but I know some hybriders have.

Promina

sweet thanks for the info... I'm suprised nobody has mention the C5 Type R.... I guess too much money...

Also another question, the suspension setup... how low can I go with a H22 on 17's?? It's there clearance issues with that big *** motor under the hood of an Integra??


Modified by Promina at 5:36 PM 5/24/2006

92integraVTECgsr

here is your biggest question, How much money do you have to spend? if money isnt an issue, go K20. If money is an issue, then what is your price limit (max) then we can help you from there.

cm zak

K

Promina

ok, I guess at the moment my limit will be roughly around 4K so that would put me out of the K20 range, but I can save for it, but if the H can perform like a K and then some, then the H is sounding like a better deal...

phateless

where does a b20 with mods fit into this equation? like what about a CR-V-TEC?


Modified by phateless at 3:37 PM 5/25/2006

JFG Kevin

WOW...i'm in the same EXACT boat as you...but i own a DB8...so i have a motor in it already..haha..cheater yes...it's semi build with stg2 cams and ctr pistons, but it's not makin me happy it's also got a itr tranny in. Im going to let you know that a DB is not easy to go fast with N/A set up...i think right now the fastest i'll pull on the track with this set up is probably 14.4 with street tires and full interior with a/c and p/s...i've been thinkin about gettin a K series swap too...

Promina

LS/VTEC or CRV/VTEC opinions are welcome, that's the direction I was going in... but has anyone taken a frakenstein setup on long trips (1500 miles plus)? I also don't plan on taking this 4 door to the track... maybe some auto cross... but if it was going down a track for some numbers, I'd boost it... just want some that get atleast 200 whp and very reliable on day to day driving on when I have to take long trips...

JFG Kevin

Most people would probably say that TUNING is the key point of having a reliable motor. I second that, your tuning might be good or perfect but if the motor is built poorly..your not goin too far either...hehe...But i say if you want like to have a daily driver without running down the track, ls vtec will be plenty of fun. I have alot of fun with my motor around town, bust it's just dont show the number i would like it to show..haah