rudebwoy

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I've been reading up on all these posts about valve cover vents and breather tanks, I've been shopping for all my parts, I've ordered everything except the breather tank, I am having a hard time finding one with two 1/2 npt inlets so I orderd 2 bungs and plan to buy one from a member here just waiting for response

http://store.summitracing.com/...OM=MG x2

http://store.summitracing.com/...OM=MG x2

http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku x2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1 x2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1 x2

waiting for response from h-t member or just buy this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1 and get the rest of the bungs welded in.

next problem I have is the turbo manifold is too close to the head, so I cant safely put both fittings on the front of the valve cover. how bad would it be to put them accross from each other? one front one back. the front of the vc is baffled the back is not




Modified by rudebwoy at 9:46 PM 1/7/2007

mike1114

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put them on the back, you will be fine. There really isn't much difference. I know the front is baffled, but I have mine on the back of the VC also cause my ramhorn mani will not allow them to fit in the front.

there are many, many setups that run them this way, this is not my car but here is an example.

If you want a cheap catch can, go to a muffler shop and buy/borrow/ask nicely to have a 6 inch section of 3inch diameter piping and either have them or a buddy weld all the stuff you need.

This is how I did mine. All out of extra 3 inch piping from my exhaust and fittings and crap I had around the garage. Gotta love 2 free catchcans from sheit laying around!!!!!!

vtec.dc2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rudebwoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been reading up on all these posts about valve cover vents and breather tanks, I've been shopping for all my parts, I've ordered everything except the breather tank, I am having a hard time finding one with two 1/2 npt inlets so I orderd 2 bungs and plan to buy one from a member here just waiting for response

http://store.summitracing.com/...OM=MG x2

http://store.summitracing.com/...OM=MG x2

http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku x2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1 x2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1 x2

waiting for response from h-t member or just buy this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1 and get the rest of the bungs welded in.

next problem I have is the turbo manifold is too close to the head, so I cant safely put both fittings on the front of the valve cover. how bad would it be to put them accross from each other? one front one back. the front of the vc is baffled the back is not

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you could get angled swiwel fittings, and you could run high temp resistant lines.
you don't really need a catch can if running from valve cover and from where its baffled.

Dunc

For the breather tank, talk with Brett from http://www.kms-fab.com. He is a local guy here and I'll definitely vouch for him. I am currently running his valve cover breather tank. He'll build it with the size fittings you want. I had him put on -12's on mine and it's a beautiful piece (pics on in the link in my signature).

rudebwoy

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I am stationed in Germany so everything cost more than normal to do, even to get someone to ship stuff to me they overcharge because they know I have limited resources, but my shipping address is APO same price as stateside, race basics on ebay has low shipping.

Mr.60trim

I've been looking into this as well. How necessary are the vents on a turbo application? I just got my vc painted without vents and wouldn't like to do the whole process over if it's not seriously needed.

vtec.dc2

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i think its very necessary. placing filters lines and catch cans or having nothing at all might cause restriction.

http://www.aeroquip.com/media/...4.pdf is the type of fittings and hose i use for my oil, power steering and vent lines.

heres my setup, 4 vents total. vacuum assisted at times when out of boost and no catch cans

Mr.60trim

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i think its very necessary. placing filters lines and catch cans or having nothing at all might cause restriction.

http://www.aeroquip.com/media/...4.pdf is the type of fittings and hose i use for my oil, power steering and vent lines.

heres my setup, 4 vents total. vacuum assisted at times when out of boost and no catch cans</TD></TR></TABLE>
Very interesting...thanks for the info

rudebwoy

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i think its very necessary. placing filters lines and catch cans or having nothing at all might cause restriction.

http://www.aeroquip.com/media/...4.pdf is the type of fittings and hose i use for my oil, power steering and vent lines.

heres my setup, 4 vents total. vacuum assisted at times when out of boost and no catch cans

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why/how do you use 3/8 lines with 12 an fittings, isn't that too small for the fittings?
I went with 10 AN fittings with 1/2 lines, and my crancase vent uses 8 an with 1/2 lines

vtec.dc2

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why/how do you use 3/8 lines with 12 an fittings, isn't that too small for the fittings?
I went with 10 AN fittings with 1/2 lines, and my crancase vent uses 8 an with 1/2 lines</TD></TR></TABLE>

in that case whatever fits 3/8 line. i do'nt have the conversion chart handy

Mr HYDE

i got a question if someone could answer so i dont have to make a thread. if you could only get one catch can for your boosted motor, should i put it as a valve cover catch can or put it to my block like the endyn kit does?

thanks

Mr HYDE

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr HYDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question if someone could answer so i dont have to make a thread. if you could only get one catch can for your boosted motor, should i put it as a valve cover catch can or put it to my block like the endyn kit does?

thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

anyone?

rudebwoy

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr HYDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question if someone could answer so i dont have to make a thread. if you could only get one catch can for your boosted motor, should i put it as a valve cover catch can or put it to my block like the endyn kit does?

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I think the block is more important because I started with just the regular endyn kit then it started over flowing only after I raised my rev limit 9100rpm and boost to 23psi it only overflow at high rpms and high boost, but normal driving at same boost level its fine. or just do both like I am trying to do now.

B18EG6

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anyone?</TD></TR></TABLE>

how much are you looking to spend?

I got Brett and Troy at kms-fab to make me one, I have both the valve cover and block vents going to it

amazing piece (no pictures of it yet, maybe today ) and highly reccomended!

DaveF

trying to "vent" an engine from oil drain back holes on the REAR of the engine, is probably about as smart as pissing into the wind.

HiProfile

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr HYDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question if someone could answer so i dont have to make a thread. if you could only get one catch can for your boosted motor, should i put it as a valve cover catch can or put it to my block like the endyn kit does?

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That back hole is right where the oil in the head drains down, as mentioned above. It would work, but you'd could possibly have extra oil going into the catch can. The stock black container back there is baffled to prevent this. You may want to try drilling & tapping instead, using AN to NPT fittings.

rudebwoy

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That back hole is right where the oil in the head drains down, as mentioned above. It would work, but you'd could possibly have extra oil going into the catch can. The stock black container back there is baffled to prevent this. You may want to try drilling & tapping instead, using AN to NPT fittings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so are you saying the way the endyn does it is inefficient ? or are you talking about something else?

vtec.dc2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr HYDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question if someone could answer so i dont have to make a thread. if you could only get one catch can for your boosted motor, should i put it as a valve cover catch can or put it to my block like the endyn kit does?

thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

you do'nt really needa catch can for valve cover vents as long as its baffled and engine is healthy.

rudebwoy

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you do'nt really needa catch can for valve cover vents as long as its baffled and engine is healthy. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I wish that was true.
when you are running 23 psi and or running at speeds of 120mph or higher for a long time you need all the ventilation possible, a lot of guys love to say you dont need , but they are only running 8 psi on a tiny t3 and not seeing any high pressure, but the guys who are really pushing their motors daily know that ventilation other than the stock pcv is very neccessary.

Boosted B6teen

A local guy here just ran a fitting on the front of his valve cover, where it is baffled, no line or catch can. This was on a DA Integra drag car. Made over 650whp and never had oil come out of it

vtec.dc2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted B6teen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A local guy here just ran a fitting on the front of his valve cover, where it is baffled, no line or catch can. This was on a DA Integra drag car. Made over 650whp and never had oil come out of it </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the way its supposed to be if its done right. i never have any oil come out you just need ot have enough ventilation so theres no smoke, there should never be smoke even at peak of hp or you need more vents.

rudebwoy

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I read his post wrong, I thought he said you dont need ventilaton from the valve cover, my bad.

vtec.dc2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rudebwoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I wish that was true.
when you are running 23 psi and or running at speeds of 120mph or higher for a long time you need all the ventilation possible, a lot of guys love to say you dont need , but they are only running 8 psi on a tiny t3 and not seeing any high pressure, but the guys who are really pushing their motors daily know that ventilation other than the stock pcv is very neccessary.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i never said stock pcv is enough for a car making more hp that stock. the more hp you make the mre vents you will need to keep your motor healthy. i used to have catch can for pcv valve but with my setup theres no need for it.. obviously if you choose to ventilate from where oil drains then you'll have no choice but to use somethign to catch oil.

aaroboost

i made my catch can out of pvc piping. drilled holes and put some barbed fittings in it and a breather too all for around 20 bucks or so

alpha

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">trying to "vent" an engine from oil drain back holes on the REAR of the engine, is probably about as smart as pissing into the wind. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks again Dave