nealnanoHX

Looking to pick up my turbo here very soon. I just am not sure which one to go with. My goal is 280-320whp. Stock B18B1 with ARP rod bolts, fresh B16 head stock with H22 LMA, B16 cams may get some GSR cams for cheap if my friend still has them, OEM replacement head bolts yeah I know I should have went with ARP studs. I have the turbos narrowed down to either a T3T4 57 trim .63AR or a T3 Super 60 .63AR. I have a cast mani that I have ported out and reworked to flow a bit better, that is AC compatible. I plan to keep AC an PS so space is limited and not having to cut the block webbing would be nice. I am not looking for super fast spool up I would like to keep the car mild in the lower RMP rang ei not making boost til 3000 rpms, to help with gas mileage driving around town. Which to the 2 turbos will suit my goals best?

Turbo-LS

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t3 super 60 will be worked really hard for that power level if it can reach it. the 57 trim would work but a 50 trim would spool quicker and still reach your goals at about the same pressure ratio as the 57 trim. your theory about boostc oming on and MPG is irrelivant. How and what rpm the turbo spools at isnt going to change mpg. Its the amount of throttle your giving it and a properly tuned turbo car with that HP level can achieve 30+mpg IF you can keep your foot out of it. When it spools up doesnt matter, if you can't keep your foot out of the throttle then it will get lower MPG no matter when the turbo starts giving you positive pressure.

nealnanoHX

The super 60 turbos I am looking at are rated to 325-350. Looking at either a Garrett or Godspeed.

ls joker

really? garrett or godsdpeed lol

Turbo-LS

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Yeah 325 crank Hp and that would
Be giving that turbo a workout big time. And comparing Garrett with Godspeed is like
Comparing Ruth's Chris filet mignonette to Applebee's sirloin. Lol

nealnanoHX

Well Garrett and Godspeed Project turbos are in my price range and I know both are dependable turbos. There are a lot of people in my car club that are or have run Godspeed Project turbos for years with great results on the dyno. My friend and co worker Scott made 490whp at 28-30psi on is built 4G63 on a Godspeed T67 .84 AR twin scroll and ran it for about 3 years with constant street driving. There are also a few with Hondas running T3T4 57 and 60 trim turbos with no issues. I have heard and experienced good things with Godspeed Project. I dont want to make this about which brand is best I know Garrett turbos are better so lets leave it at that.

Turbo-LS

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Godspeed are not dependable turbos. They are Chinese junk. Sometimes they last most times they don't. Stick to a Garrett uinit

nealnanoHX

Do you have experience with these turbos are are you just going off forum he said this.....?? I have seen Precision, Garrett, Turbonetics, Bullseye and Holset turbos fail after being bought new or like new condition, after a few months just the same as a cheaper turbo.

Turbo-LS

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Just get whatever turbo you want brother. Trying to steer you in the right direction. If you want to be thick headed and put **** parts on your car be my guest. I'm not going to argue with you quality product vs Chinese garbage. I have plenty of experience with a multitude of turbo companies. Generally big brand names fail from user error. Chinese turbos fail because they're hit or miss garbage

Schister66

Just had to reiterate that point

rich7777

MY GOD, GODSPEED !!

Considering the thought and engineering that goes into designing robust parts - I don't see why on earth anyone would even buy the cheap **** that is on the market. Anyone who is considering buying the crap needs to take a good look into how much time, money and effort goes into designing this stuff in the first place.

Like anything in life - you'll get out what ever you put in. 'Something for nothing' doesn't exist...

nealnanoHX

I dont need the the 411 on cheap turbos, trust me I know. The thing is like I said I have seen even the good turbos fail in under 1000 miles just like the cheap ones and the cost to rebuild them is the same. So I can get a Godspeed which are decent and if it fails I can rebuild it locally for $150 with Garrett parts and have a great turbo for under $400. Or I can by a Garrett for $600 and it could still fail (not as likely but still possible). Garrett offers a 1 year warranty and so does Godspeed. Heck I could buy 2 Godspeed turbos and if one fails have it rebuilt and run the second as a back up until I get the 1st rebuilt and I would still have saved money. That is my logic behind it anyways. As I said I know several people that are running Godspeed turbos and have been for years with little to know issues. I think a buddy have to have his 60 trim rebuilt once cause it started to smoke after about 20k miles of 18 psi DD on a Ls motor. I also ran a Godspeed CT26 Ver.2 on my 89 Supra and it worked great, sold it with the car still installed and the guy I sold it to about 5 years ago is still running it on a now built 7MGTE motor. I did not want this to become a Ebay turbo thread but it has. All I wanted to know is would the Super 60 be a good turbo choice and what I have been told here backs up what I was already pretty sure of, that it is too small for my goals.

TheShodan

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They failed because of user error. No amount of quality can protect against a failed install which is 99.9% of the reason why you see the quality units fail.

The answer to this question is relatively simple; how much you are willing to spend vs. how much risk you're willing to take for the type of turbo you want. When you've answered that to your satisfaction, and you still want the Godspeed with their horribly rated and unknown profiles, take the plunge, try it out, and see if it fits your needs. Without worry that you've made the right choice.. If so, then good. But you're more than likely going to get any more opinions than what you've received now at this point

nealnanoHX

The man has spoken nuff said for me, Garrett T3T4 50 trim .63 AR turbo it is. I may get a Godspeed for a BS boost on my brothers Teg Ls just to try one out since we dont care if that motor blows, its getting F or H treatment anyways in the near future. But since the OP is for my personally DD I want it 100%. I will just need to save up a bit more. Plan so far is my cast mani, Tial or Turbosmart wastegate, Greddy or HKS BOV not sure which probably which ever I find for a better deal, JDM Sport intercooler kit, ID1000 cc injectors, 255lph or maybe 400lph fuel pump I know overkill but I like overkill plus planning to build a block I have and swap turbos for 400whp. Hondata S100 for now S300 or Neptune RTP for built block, Hondata 3 bar map sensor. I am sure I am forgetting a few thing but that is the big stuff. Oh yeah RPS stg3 clutch.

TheShodan

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Smart move. I think you"ll like that choice for the LS

nealnanoHX

My motor is a Ls Vtec stock B18B1 bottom end with ARP rod bolts, fully refreshed B16 head with B16 cams.