Natural Aspirations

Yes.

"Lower Boost, lower rev motor...Skunk2 PRO Series FTW"

That point being made I run a Blox manifold but I also do not consider my build a "Race" build. The victor has been proven to be a better choice in drag race applications. IF I were looking to upgrade manifolds I would likely choose the KMS modified performer x. A race application needs to be chosen for each application and tested for optimal performance, if you don't have the money or time to test components you will always be chasing the guy who is.

Cole D

You bring up some interesting points, well done Sir.

Natural Aspirations

Reall really shitty points...
This is a RACE part
OBD2 IAT sensors cannot be used in boosted applications.
90mm TB.... Have you paid attention to what is being used in high HP applications?
Coolant ports support provisions for ALL b-series heads, why is this bad?
IACV... See again RACE part. Most racers are competent enough to tune a car to idle without IACV.
TB linkage.... I've got nothing, but I haven't had one in hand and the only photos seem to be prototype.

OneBadTurboCRV

Haha, coming from you I will take it with a grain of salt. Coming directly from their website: "Fits ALL popular chassis configurations - NOT JUST RACE CARS"... soo, with that being said show me where it says it is a RACE ONLY manifold. Also, if you look at my last sentence that YOU quoted, you would see where my bitch comes into play.

You are surely clueless if you think you can't use an OBD-2 IAT in Forced Induction.

Idling at 1,500 should be saved for VTEC killer cams.

Show me a 4 banger that NEEDS a 90mm (3.5") throttle body in forced induction. 3" piping can support almost 90lbs per min which is around a 67mm turbo = 8 second car. So again, I reiterate, when you are at that level you aren't even remotely looking at off the shelf parts. If you are, then you shouldn't be racing.

The coolant port comment was because it isn't threaded or anything and it seems the proper outlets aren't supplied. Let's face it, they aren't producing this stuff anymore and parts ARE drying up.

So stop nut-swinging and think before you speak.

Natural Aspirations

Please kid..... Why don't you post under your real name rather than hide under this one?

th3pwn3r

If I had to guess I'd say that's NevahSatisfied(or however it was spelled). He knows what he's talking about and he has the same rough attitude.

Spawne32

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You know many race teams that brag about running to buy skunk2 parts though?

Natural Aspirations

Sheepy comes to mind.... His car seems pretty fast. It went faster with this manifold correct?

To be clear I don't currently have any S2 parts in my engine so I hardly ride nuts. I DON'T know if this manifold is great or not, but its another choice. I have no plans to try this manifold, much too large/expensive for my car.

jdm inc

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from the drag racing section under intake manifold dicussion
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...513022&page=25

eK24monster

What are you talking about? BETTER quality! You have not even held one... so your making your assumptions on WHAT? Pictures! The pictures of this thing look great! SMH... its a 1/3 of the price of a Kinsler manifold and it actually fits more than just a race car.

Time will tell... as these start to find their way into consumers hands you'll see the truth but until then, I guess you can just keep guessing.


Failed at WHAT?

eK24monster

From my post on K20A.org...

doctorake

I am not trying to stir the pot here but do you work for Skunk2?

OneBadTurboCRV

Sounds like it. They put sooo much R&D and enjunearnenen into it that they don't know thread engagement of bolts? That is just down right pathetic. It shows lack of attention to detail and engineering flaws. If you can't get simple bolts right, how in the hell is the rest of supposed to perform correctly? Everything about the manifold can be CALCULATED. WHY would you make a prototype with such simple design flaws in place? Lack of knowledge or a thrown together/rushed design, that's how.

eK24monster

Quoted from another thread here on Honda-tech where we are talking about the SAME things and defending the product from the SAME people!

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...3074563&page=5

eK24monster

Its pathetic that you dont understand the written words that this was a PROTOTYPE! Sheepy used this manifold in a way we did not intend. He was only running 30-35psi and when he went to east coast event Miller suggested they crank the boost ALL THE WAY UP. It saw 50+ psi... a huge difference from what/ how we expected it to be used at that time.

eK24monster

I'd like to add that its not a design flaw when its a prototype. It was not thrown together... it was being used in a very specific way and the owner of the car did something else with it. He also takes responsibility for not saying something to Miller prior to it having an issue or controlling the situation (the cheap shot Miller took) after it had its issues.

OneBadTurboCRV

You design and then build a manifold (when I say you, I surely don't mean YOU, you lack what is needed, clearly) that has RACE CAR attached to it you look at the end user first. What is the top guy running for pressures? Then you calculate a safety factor to further aid in potential lawsuits (let's face it, the world we live in is full of them no matter how silly). If this was strictly a street car application I could possibly reason with you. Stop making excuses to try and cover up the obvious design flaws. Maybe you should talk to somebody that actually works in the design department and have them develop in secret so your "protoype" failures aren't instantly made public.

If you truly do work for Junk2 then you sure do represent the company in a sad unprofessional manner. That in itself is truly pathetic. We slap Skunk2 stickers on knock off parts to make them just like you do.

Either way, I wish I would have seen the cat fight in the All Motor section earlier. That is some funny stuff.

doctorake

I was asking because I am curious, where is this product manufactured?

eK24monster

Nothing has changed with the design of the manifold, so how could it be a design flaw? The casting in the areas where the problems occurred were more than capable of being drilled and tapped larger and deeper... why they were not I dont know. In my eyes this was not a design issue but rather an error in judgement.

You can try to insult me all you want and talk about how I dont represent the company well but your the one picking the product apart and starting crap while hiding behind a screen name. I'm trying to do everything I can to defend this product from people with hidden agenda's.

DDTECH

It did.

After this ifo, i'm selling my itbs, going to a manifold setup, this is possibly in the weighted options. I also have a close friend of mine, who's also willing to do a 1 off intake manifold for me as well..which i have no doubt that it would perform quite well.

eK24monster

Does it really matter? Honestly, if I told you where its made would it make any difference? We make stuff locally and we've said it and people still dont believe it... so what does it matter?

BLU CIVIC

jdm inc

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dont knock it till you try it i guess lol

owen23

It could be made in Africa and cast from elephant ****, ill let the numbers decide if I end up getting one. I don't see your point.

BlazedD

iTrader: (17)

lol, sheepey's car went faster because Miller drove it. This is what the driver, Miller, had to say about the manifold:






Just answer his question.