POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller
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POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller
Ive done a search and havent come up with an answer to my question of which type of boost controller i should get. some say electronic ones are prone to creep and fail and others say that manuals are more prone to this. ive seen arguments from both sides and i just cant decide. so i just want to run this poll of which ones you guys prefer.
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (Racerage1)
I guess I'm the first one to vote for electronic.
In cockpit boost control
Did I say.. "**** pit"
In cockpit boost control
Did I say.. "**** pit"
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (MarkC)
I voted manual, just because i have one. I like the simplicity of it though. I have the hallman boost controller, and it has the ability to be adjuted in the "**** pit"
Allso greddy makes an incab adjustable manual boost controller. The main reason i like manual is that its just simple, one less peice of electronics to go bad. Something to be said for simplicity. Electric does have the edge in the fact that it can open the gate quicker by holding the signal completely until "go time". Its personall preferance on this one I think. But thats my vote, manual.
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Allso greddy makes an incab adjustable manual boost controller. The main reason i like manual is that its just simple, one less peice of electronics to go bad. Something to be said for simplicity. Electric does have the edge in the fact that it can open the gate quicker by holding the signal completely until "go time". Its personall preferance on this one I think. But thats my vote, manual.
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (rjardy)
Manual Boost Controoler-Turbo XS. Simple and works. Nothing complicated. Maybe I will complicate things if I get a AEM system or something.
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I've got a TurboXS DSMBC, I've yet to use it though... But it seems like a nice idea Hopefully I'll get everything put in by next month
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AVCR
Gear dependant boost control!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is the only way to control boost. Manual controllers are a PITA if you are changing your boost settings, i.e street and track settings. When I first got into turbocharging I used manual controllers since they were so cheap, once you start making good power (above 300whp) you'll realize that a gear based controller is the only way to get the power to the ground efficiently on the street.
Gear dependant boost control!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is the only way to control boost. Manual controllers are a PITA if you are changing your boost settings, i.e street and track settings. When I first got into turbocharging I used manual controllers since they were so cheap, once you start making good power (above 300whp) you'll realize that a gear based controller is the only way to get the power to the ground efficiently on the street.
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (Racerage1)
Electric boost controllers are better cause of the quick boost change feature,
but if you dont have the money or dont want to spend the money, then get a manual boost controller, which works as well as an electric. IMO
but if you dont have the money or dont want to spend the money, then get a manual boost controller, which works as well as an electric. IMO
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (UltimateTSI)
The important factor you left out is are you talking in terms of "bling factor" considered...
I'm all for most functionality for least amount of money, and hands down nothing can beat a (my) homemade manual boost controller. It cost me $8 from home depot parts, a pen sacraficed for it's spring, and a ball bearing out of some toy i had. $8
Ball + spring boost controllers hold the gate shut right until the desired pressure is reached, then spring it open instantly. This promotes fastest possible spool. I've never spiked a pound with my boost controller, and I can honestly say that dollar for dollar after making this, I would never buy an EBC.
If it was given to me for a good price, say, $50, than maybe. But as far as functionality goes... why?
I'm all for most functionality for least amount of money, and hands down nothing can beat a (my) homemade manual boost controller. It cost me $8 from home depot parts, a pen sacraficed for it's spring, and a ball bearing out of some toy i had. $8
Ball + spring boost controllers hold the gate shut right until the desired pressure is reached, then spring it open instantly. This promotes fastest possible spool. I've never spiked a pound with my boost controller, and I can honestly say that dollar for dollar after making this, I would never buy an EBC.
If it was given to me for a good price, say, $50, than maybe. But as far as functionality goes... why?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is the only way to control boost. Manual controllers are a PITA if you are changing your boost settings, i.e street and track settings. When I first got into turbocharging I used manual controllers since they were so cheap, once you start making good power (above 300whp) you'll realize that a gear based controller is the only way to get the power to the ground efficiently on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im very interested in these...where would you recommend finding the gear dependent controller?
This is the only way to control boost. Manual controllers are a PITA if you are changing your boost settings, i.e street and track settings. When I first got into turbocharging I used manual controllers since they were so cheap, once you start making good power (above 300whp) you'll realize that a gear based controller is the only way to get the power to the ground efficiently on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im very interested in these...where would you recommend finding the gear dependent controller?
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lil OT: what other controllers are gear dependant besides the AVC-R?
I use a TVVC but will be upgrading to somthing like an AVC-R soon...
I use a TVVC but will be upgrading to somthing like an AVC-R soon...
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Innovative and World electronics. Both are super expensive, both are completely out of my price range. The avc-r is the best option at the moment in terms of cost. I picked a used one up for 275.00, so they can be had relatively cheap. If you are serious about having a fast street car, on street tires manual boost controllers are not the way to go.
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I actually built my own gear dependent boost controller out of my MBC. I basically hooked up a contact so that when I was in first gear an air solenoid was activated. In my case, I plumbed this solenoid to bypass air around my MBC limiting boost to 9 psi. In the end I ditched the idea. Yes it worked but I found out quickly that 9 psi on one street would provide the perfect launch where 9 psi on another would get the tires spinning. I just learned to use my right foot as a boost controller. After driving myu car everyday for 3 years, I've learned how to anticipate tire spinnage. Its much more effective for me than limiting boost. Not only that, but I am making a decent about of torque for my hp level, so traction is a very serious issue.
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (tgrace)
Turbo XS Dual stage. There are a couple of small tricks with this boost controller and if you can figure them out its the best thing out there imo
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (uglyasscivic)
electronic is the only way to go, mbc progressivly open where as an electronic can wait longer and that can increase spool time.
theres no reason to get a manual control if you have the money for an electronic.
if you want a simple and efective boost controller get the profec-b
if you want more features AVCR
theres no reason to get a manual control if you have the money for an electronic.
if you want a simple and efective boost controller get the profec-b
if you want more features AVCR
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i use the aem solenoid with speed based boost control. Works great and even corrects for errors with closed loop boost control. The best part about it is that it cost like $18 to add on the aem ems.
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Re: POLL: Electronic boost controller VS Manual boost controller (Foozball26)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Foozball26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">electronic is the only way to go, mbc progressivly open where as an electronic can wait longer and that can increase spool time.
theres no reason to get a manual control if you have the money for an electronic.
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Manual BLEEDER style open slowly / kill spool. Ball + spring hold gate shut until desired boost is reached.
AVCR is $400 better spent elsewhere... unless you already have everything else important.
theres no reason to get a manual control if you have the money for an electronic.
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Manual BLEEDER style open slowly / kill spool. Ball + spring hold gate shut until desired boost is reached.
AVCR is $400 better spent elsewhere... unless you already have everything else important.
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Turboxs HPBC. Holds boost good. I mainly bought it for the price, but I am happy w/ the results. I'm sure there is way better out there, but for now this controller gets the job done efficiently.