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Old 05-04-2014, 01:08 AM
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Im wondering what is the best everything for the B18C1 motor. From the best turbo to the best exhaust, best air filter, and best internals. Im thinking about going 8.3 Compression Ratio. 300 - 400 hp street car.
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cp pistons and eagle rods are good value for money internals for 400hp.

a GTX3067R is also a good turbo for your application

as for exhasut a 3' is a good choice.

tial 38 is a good option for that power.

8.3 is too low CR, i would have gone for 9 -10

walbro 255 pump

stock cams and head are ok for that power you want..

and of course tuned ecu with at least 600cc injectors
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There is no such thing as "best for everything". A best for drag turbo will be too big for road race courses, and WAY too big for autocross. 8.3 CR is way too low - stick with 10:1, if not a little higher. For 400, BARE minimum would be ID725's, but you would be better served with ID1000's.

Basically, you need to decide exactly what you want out of your car if you expect to get any real advice. There are no "stretchy pants" in the FI world.
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Originally Posted by turbomaniac
cp pistons and eagle rods are good value for money internals for 400hp.

a GTX3067R is also a good turbo for your application

as for exhasut a 3' is a good choice.

tial 38 is a good option for that power.

8.3 is too low CR, i would have gone for 9 -10

walbro 255 pump

stock cams and head are ok for that power you want..

and of course tuned ecu with at least 600cc injectors
What is the lowest CR do you think is good?
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There is no such thing as "best for everything". A best for drag turbo will be too big for road race courses, and WAY too big for autocross. 8.3 CR is way too low - stick with 10:1, if not a little higher. For 400, BARE minimum would be ID725's, but you would be better served with ID1000's.

Basically, you need to decide exactly what you want out of your car if you expect to get any real advice. There are no "stretchy pants" in the FI world.
ID725? ID1000? Sorry im still new to boosting and compression ratios and stuff like that.
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Why are you so insistent on lowering your compression ratio?

ID's are injectors, specifically injectors made by Injector Dynamics. One of the best options on the market right now. ID725's are 725cc/min injectors, ID1000's are 1000cc/min injectors.
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Why are you so insistent on lowering your compression ratio?

ID's are injectors, specifically injectors made by Injector Dynamics. One of the best options on the market right now. ID725's are 725cc/min injectors, ID1000's are 1000cc/min injectors.
My Friend told me to go 9.0:1 CR with GTX3071R
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What is the lowest CR do you think is good?

9:1 is a very safe CR with no too menu hp loss
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A 300 WHP goal and 400 WHP goal will both use different turbos, and once again, for different purposes. You're still trying to skirt around what you plan on using the car for. if you can't tell us that, we can't tell you anything useful.
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Over night parts form summit.



But serious 8.3cr? Do some research this isn't 1998, do e85 and some 10.5:1

600cc are really small get some id1000 for pump or 2000 for e85.

Also hope you got a big budget
"The best" parts aren't cheap
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Looks like you need to do some more research. Read the FAQ, read some GSR build threads, check out some dyno sheets to see what type of power curves are being made with different turbos and find something you like.

Post your budget as well if you want more than just generic responses.
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Originally Posted by turbomaniac
9:1 is a very safe CR with no too menu hp loss
What are all the things i could change to go boost? I know i could change the piston, rod, valve, valve springs, bearings, and flywheel, but idk if its necessary to change the camshaft or crankshaft.
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For your power goals, a simple rod and piston combo will be fine. Keep it simple.
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For your power goals, a simple rod and piston combo will be fine. Keep it simple.
i agree
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Originally Posted by turbomaniac
i agree
So cp pistons and eagle rod on a gtx3071r good enough?
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Default Re: The Perfect Turbo GSR Build?

You're STILL skipping over the most important question. Answer it already, it's not that hard.
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
You're STILL skipping over the most important question. Answer it already, it's not that hard.
Huh? What was the question?
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Default Re: The Perfect Turbo GSR Build?

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Huh? What was the question?

Originally Posted by NotARacist
A 300 WHP goal and 400 WHP goal will both use different turbos, and once again, for different purposes. You're still trying to skirt around what you plan on using the car for. if you can't tell us that, we can't tell you anything useful.
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What do you want out of the setup? What are your goals? What is the purpose/use for the setup/car? What is your budget?

Before you get wrapped up in the parts and details, you need to answer these questions....otherwise you're going to get a bunch of irrelevant, inconsistent opinions. Everyone has their idea of what is "best" but it may not be what you're looking for
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What do you want out of the setup? What are your goals? What is the purpose/use for the setup/car? What is your budget?

Before you get wrapped up in the parts and details, you need to answer these questions....otherwise you're going to get a bunch of irrelevant, inconsistent opinions. Everyone has their idea of what is "best" but it may not be what you're looking for
A more elaborate way of asking this.

Originally Posted by NotARacist
You're still trying to skirt around what you plan on using the car for.
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Yes, it was a bit repetitive, but i wanted to avoid this \/\/

Originally Posted by DC2GSR808
Huh? What was the question?
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There is no such thing as perfect.

For every power goal and purpose of the car a different part for a different system is required. Each part has it's pros and cons.

for example, a turbo for an 800hp car isn't going to be the proper unit for a 400hp motor. different intake manifolds for different power bands and purposes, different cam shaft profiles, different turbo manifolds with different runner lengths and diameters, etc.

different connecting rod materials and designs, different compression ratios, etc.

you need to decide on a concrete power goal and the purpose of the car and then start choosing parts around that goal and purpose.

however if you don't how how changing each part will effect the overall system I suggest you research heavily before purchasing anything
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Tfor example, a turbo for an 800hp car isn't going to be the proper unit for a 400hp motor. different intake manifolds for different power bands and purposes, different cam shaft profiles, different turbo manifolds with different runner lengths and diameters, etc.
And to further expound on that, a proper turbo for a drag-oriented car will be different than a proper turbo for a road course car, and still different again from a proper turbo for an autocross car. There are WAY too many options out there, and WAY too many uses to have a "perfect" turbo.
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Originally Posted by Schister66
What do you want out of the setup? What are your goals? What is the purpose/use for the setup/car? What is your budget?

Before you get wrapped up in the parts and details, you need to answer these questions....otherwise you're going to get a bunch of irrelevant, inconsistent opinions. Everyone has their idea of what is "best" but it may not be what you're looking for
A street car that I could take to drags and run around 12s. There is no budget for this build. I was thinking 400 hp with a good tune. But I wanted to see what kind parts you guys would offer that are great.


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