My engine build thread
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My engine build thread
I really enjoy reading other people's engine or turbo builds and looking at all the pics so I figured I'd share some pics from my recent engine rebuild for others.
I was boosted on the stock internals and eventually lifted the head gasket at 10lbs of boost. Decided to make the engine stronger so I pulled the whole thing out.
I rebuilt it with CP 9.0:1 pistons and Eagle rods with head studs.
Here it starts. Engine coming out
My son lending a hand when he can
OK engine out. Time to start tearing this down.
Factory pistons
Eventually a bare block which will be on it's way to the machine shop
Block back from the machine shop. Notched for the new rods. They notched the mains girdle too
Stock rods vs Eagle rods
Alright who's ready to assemble a new engine?
Unfortunately my hands don't fit in these tiny bores so I had to teach my son to prep the bores
New pistons with the rings installed after they were filed to correct gaps.
Piston and rod assemblies coming together
Prepped block ready for assembly
Pistons going in
Head cleaned and ready to go back
Making some progress
Starting to look like an engine again
Before you know it the engine's almost all done
Almost done and ready to go back in the car
Back to the engine bay
And all done!
I also attempted to install this radiator which should cool quite a bit nicer than the stock unit since mid 100 degree summer heat caused the car to run around 210 ~ 215F just cruising on the highway at 70mph. The intercooler blocks to much air going to the radiator.
Unfortunately the above radiator didn't fit for a number of reasons. Id' have to redo my turbo manifold, turbo intake, new down pipe, dump tube etc. So instead I got this 14" SPAL fan that'll suck the chrome off a bumper and used it with the stock radiator.
I had tried a fan shroud too but just couldn't get it to fit.
Tid bits of info... all new parts used in engine, oil pump, water pump, bearings etc. Valve job done on head, all new belts including timing belt.
Hope you guys enjoyed.
I was boosted on the stock internals and eventually lifted the head gasket at 10lbs of boost. Decided to make the engine stronger so I pulled the whole thing out.
I rebuilt it with CP 9.0:1 pistons and Eagle rods with head studs.
Here it starts. Engine coming out
My son lending a hand when he can
OK engine out. Time to start tearing this down.
Factory pistons
Eventually a bare block which will be on it's way to the machine shop
Block back from the machine shop. Notched for the new rods. They notched the mains girdle too
Stock rods vs Eagle rods
Alright who's ready to assemble a new engine?
Unfortunately my hands don't fit in these tiny bores so I had to teach my son to prep the bores
New pistons with the rings installed after they were filed to correct gaps.
Piston and rod assemblies coming together
Prepped block ready for assembly
Pistons going in
Head cleaned and ready to go back
Making some progress
Starting to look like an engine again
Before you know it the engine's almost all done
Almost done and ready to go back in the car
Back to the engine bay
And all done!
I also attempted to install this radiator which should cool quite a bit nicer than the stock unit since mid 100 degree summer heat caused the car to run around 210 ~ 215F just cruising on the highway at 70mph. The intercooler blocks to much air going to the radiator.
Unfortunately the above radiator didn't fit for a number of reasons. Id' have to redo my turbo manifold, turbo intake, new down pipe, dump tube etc. So instead I got this 14" SPAL fan that'll suck the chrome off a bumper and used it with the stock radiator.
I had tried a fan shroud too but just couldn't get it to fit.
Tid bits of info... all new parts used in engine, oil pump, water pump, bearings etc. Valve job done on head, all new belts including timing belt.
Hope you guys enjoyed.
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Nice build
I would really make a fan shroud if your temps are getting to 215 again. I had the same problem and I'm running a dual core fluidyne.
I made a shroud for the fan.
I also set my fan cut off mph higher. Stock is 35mph, but that with good airflow to the radiator. I set mine to 70mph and now with the changes I made my temps stay solid at 188-190.
Good luck get a tune asap
I would really make a fan shroud if your temps are getting to 215 again. I had the same problem and I'm running a dual core fluidyne.
I made a shroud for the fan.
I also set my fan cut off mph higher. Stock is 35mph, but that with good airflow to the radiator. I set mine to 70mph and now with the changes I made my temps stay solid at 188-190.
Good luck get a tune asap
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Yeah love the cars hobby. I enjoy it alot
I purchased the mishimoto fan shroud but couldn't even come close to getting it to fit. That's why I went with the 14" SPAL and also bumped mph cut off like you said. We'll see next summer if that was enough or if I need to come up with a new plan.
As for tune I'm working on it. Car is 100% tuned by myself with the S300
Nice build
I would really make a fan shroud if your temps are getting to 215 again. I had the same problem and I'm running a dual core fluidyne.
I made a shroud for the fan.
I also set my fan cut off mph higher. Stock is 35mph, but that with good airflow to the radiator. I set mine to 70mph and now with the changes I made my temps stay solid at 188-190.
Good luck get a tune asap
I would really make a fan shroud if your temps are getting to 215 again. I had the same problem and I'm running a dual core fluidyne.
I made a shroud for the fan.
I also set my fan cut off mph higher. Stock is 35mph, but that with good airflow to the radiator. I set mine to 70mph and now with the changes I made my temps stay solid at 188-190.
Good luck get a tune asap
As for tune I'm working on it. Car is 100% tuned by myself with the S300
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Check with the fitment of another radiator. Just because the intercooler blocks it completely doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to block coolant flow, especially with a new aftermarket radiator. Believe it or not, higher capacity dual (and triple) cores help circulate water and keep temps down a lower than you think.
Also, think about the type of intercooler you have. I believe you have one that is tube/fin in design, and on average allows more airflow to the radiator than say a Bell or Garrett core. For example, I actually got a LARGER capacity half-core radiator with a big Garrett intercooler that blocks the entire front. on 90 degree day, temps were a nice 192 degrees.
So, don't give up yet on a better capacity radiator for the setup. the fan alone may work for dropping coolant temps after the coolant has been heated for a bit, but you want to have them not get that high in the first place, so a better radiator is definitely in order.
Also, think about the type of intercooler you have. I believe you have one that is tube/fin in design, and on average allows more airflow to the radiator than say a Bell or Garrett core. For example, I actually got a LARGER capacity half-core radiator with a big Garrett intercooler that blocks the entire front. on 90 degree day, temps were a nice 192 degrees.
So, don't give up yet on a better capacity radiator for the setup. the fan alone may work for dropping coolant temps after the coolant has been heated for a bit, but you want to have them not get that high in the first place, so a better radiator is definitely in order.
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Check with the fitment of another radiator. Just because the intercooler blocks it completely doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to block coolant flow, especially with a new aftermarket radiator. Believe it or not, higher capacity dual (and triple) cores help circulate water and keep temps down a lower than you think.
Also, think about the type of intercooler you have. I believe you have one that is tube/fin in design, and on average allows more airflow to the radiator than say a Bell or Garrett core. For example, I actually got a LARGER capacity half-core radiator with a big Garrett intercooler that blocks the entire front. on 90 degree day, temps were a nice 192 degrees.
So, don't give up yet on a better capacity radiator for the setup. the fan alone may work for dropping coolant temps after the coolant has been heated for a bit, but you want to have them not get that high in the first place, so a better radiator is definitely in order.
Also, think about the type of intercooler you have. I believe you have one that is tube/fin in design, and on average allows more airflow to the radiator than say a Bell or Garrett core. For example, I actually got a LARGER capacity half-core radiator with a big Garrett intercooler that blocks the entire front. on 90 degree day, temps were a nice 192 degrees.
So, don't give up yet on a better capacity radiator for the setup. the fan alone may work for dropping coolant temps after the coolant has been heated for a bit, but you want to have them not get that high in the first place, so a better radiator is definitely in order.
One possible option is to cut into the radiator core to sink the radiator back a little towards the grill to make it fit. I really didn't want to cut up the body yet if I don't have to. Hence the spal fan for now.
The setup I have now works absolutely killer in these temps and will more than do the job till next summer so I have time to think about an upgrade path if needed.
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I agree a larger capacity radiator makes a world of difference and doesn't need nearly as much air flow. I've seen this first hand on many other past projects. The problem is the turbo placement currently is almost touching my stock radiator. So a larger radiator is immediately pushing up so tight on the turbo I can't get the outlet tube installed or the intake tube.
One possible option is to cut into the radiator core to sink the radiator back a little towards the grill to make it fit. I really didn't want to cut up the body yet if I don't have to. Hence the spal fan for now.
The setup I have now works absolutely killer in these temps and will more than do the job till next summer so I have time to think about an upgrade path if needed.
One possible option is to cut into the radiator core to sink the radiator back a little towards the grill to make it fit. I really didn't want to cut up the body yet if I don't have to. Hence the spal fan for now.
The setup I have now works absolutely killer in these temps and will more than do the job till next summer so I have time to think about an upgrade path if needed.
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As for having a fan set at "speed" that's for your management system to try and use. if Not, there are manual control systems you can use to turn it on and off at will. Get a good thermostat no lower than 93*C or 170*F, good coolant with water wetter, a good SPAL fan with a Koyo (my personal favorite), and you're golden.
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This is what i used... its a 1.3. If your using a aftermarket radiator id go with this one
http://www.fmpracing.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1887
Ohh and if your using the S300 you change the raditor setting to 70mph in the protection parameters. It gives the option to override raditor switch to the desired MPH and ECT tempature of your choice. I used 182 and 50 mph. I never see my tempatures go above 188 even in traffic.
http://www.fmpracing.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1887
Ohh and if your using the S300 you change the raditor setting to 70mph in the protection parameters. It gives the option to override raditor switch to the desired MPH and ECT tempature of your choice. I used 182 and 50 mph. I never see my tempatures go above 188 even in traffic.
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This is what i used... its a 1.3. If your using a aftermarket radiator id go with this one
http://www.fmpracing.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1887
http://www.fmpracing.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1887
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This is what i used... its a 1.3. If your using a aftermarket radiator id go with this one
http://www.fmpracing.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1887
Ohh and if your using the S300 you change the raditor setting to 70mph in the protection parameters. It gives the option to override raditor switch to the desired MPH and ECT tempature of your choice. I used 182 and 50 mph. I never see my tempatures go above 188 even in traffic.
http://www.fmpracing.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1887
Ohh and if your using the S300 you change the raditor setting to 70mph in the protection parameters. It gives the option to override raditor switch to the desired MPH and ECT tempature of your choice. I used 182 and 50 mph. I never see my tempatures go above 188 even in traffic.
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Temperature: 195 F
Max Speed: 55 mph (I may need to bump this in the summer)
55F for your fan seems wrong? that would mean your fan is pretty much running all the time because your engine will never cool below 55F for it to turn off.
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The increased spring pressure helps to maintain a specific pressure inside your cooling system. As atmospheric pressure rises, the boiling point of a fluid also rises. Boiling fluid isn’t very good at transferring heat, so by increasing the pressure inside the system, you increase the amount of heat the cooling system can remove before it begins to boil.
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The increased spring pressure helps to maintain a specific pressure inside your cooling system. As atmospheric pressure rises, the boiling point of a fluid also rises. Boiling fluid isn’t very good at transferring heat, so by increasing the pressure inside the system, you increase the amount of heat the cooling system can remove before it begins to boil.
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