SiRkid

THis can be used for basically anyones car.
Howmuch can the stock honda set up handle? is it worht getting something with a better spark?

Jared

I have personally seen the stock ignition setup make 300hp, but I'm sure others have their own opinions. At the very least, for something thats going to make lots of power I always get an external coil like an MSD to get the coil away from the hot distributor and use a good set of MSD wires as well, but again, thats just my personal preference.

GruvyTune

uhmmm
I dynoed my car at 350+HP running a stock ignition and 14psi.
Not a problem!

Mikey3000

stock ignition would prolly be good up to 500 hp.

VaporTrail

i've seen stock honda ignition, right down to the wires (but not the plugs, obviously) handle upwards of 450whp.

SiRkid

hmmm.
thats what i thought. very good to confirm.
thanks guys!

autoEXturbo

i should dyno close to 450 on stock ignition.

g2turbo

bump, this is an old topic just curious for more input. I have the msd 6al and just want to go back to stock.

how much are you people making on stock ignition!!

st00pid

I tuned a B16A turbo that made 467 on stock ignition, Cheezefrogs's car made somewhere around 575whp on stock ignition.

g2turbo

thanks st00pid thats exactly what i was looking for was Dyno numbers. Nice work on both of those cars by the way.

Smashback

He asked two questions.

How much can stock handle and it is worth upgrading.

Answers:
Alot, and yes.

Sure, your car can run fine with some 24 ga. wire wrapped around the dist cap and spark plugs, but why miss out on horsepower (and possibly fuel economy)?

Once I get another MSD, I guess I'll have to do a with and without dyno. Don't expect it anytime soon, I think my wife is about to ground me from working on my car.

alpha

I'm still debating on an MSD 6a box or not. I have heard people complain about their MSD box with Hondata.

93LSivic

In my case I had many reasons why I upgraded my ignition to MSD 6A and Blaster SS coil.
1) I would always get intermittent CEL's that had to do with the distributor.
2) My ICM (ignitor) was on its way out--those pos's are expensive.
3) My coil was bad--one actually blew up, but thats a different story.
4) Every time I troubleshooted my problems every component came out to be outside of factory specs.
5) With the power Im going to be putting out, why keep the ignition system the only stock part on the whole damn motor---I didnt want any worries.

I upgraded to that setup and Im happier now with it. Im not sure about a stock ecu, but with my EMS I was able to take the ICM out of the picture. The stock honda ICM is ****, and is IMO a highly unreliable part--we all know that turbo is already unreliable for the most part, so why add to it.

I would say that is a good upgrade for what it costs. Also for piece of mind.

SiRkid

i was like wtf..
I guess its better to add to old posts than to start new ones

PrecisionH23a

my stock ignition on my h23a started going to **** when it put out 330whp on the dyno.

AVATAR

So no one knows if the stock ECU can be keep when ditching the ignitor. . . Bump

BoostedSi

My tuner was saying that my ignition was starting to fall off and i needed to upgrade at only 254whp. But then again, what da hell does ED know

g2turbo

wow there are many different views about this. anyway i traded my MSD stuff last night for a stock obd1 vtec dist. Hope i dont regret this later. going to have my b16 turbo setup tuned the May 3rd at payn. Ill let you guys know how it goes.

BoostedED9

talk to the guys up at inline pro, they told me that they have ran their stock ignition and cables upwards of 450hp i belive...

PrecisionH23a

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ed told me the same thing...

ImAcracker

Bump. Just looking to see who is getting what out of the stock ignition. Im shooting for 500whp+ on stock ignition real soon here.

MrBui

all i got is a msd coil and ngk wires spark only started to get blown out at 30+psi.... i dont run that high of a psi so dont freak out.... but my car runs fine with this set up for 555whp

mrDFWmechanic

very interesting

_Cyclone_

I'll be running a modest 200-220whp on my stock d-series in a couple of weeks... I have the MSD 10.9 wires and NGK G-Power plugs one step colder, I may upgrade to an external coil if I feel like it or if I have problems. It would be easy to modify the distributer cap to run an external coil, so why not.

Man, this thread is a few years old! Back from the dead twice now!

turbotypeR@SPEC

i remember reading a article about chris rado's integra that was making over 800 hp with stock ignition and wires