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Old 04-11-2015, 12:54 PM
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Hello
I have a recently rebuilt b18c1 with:
Arp Head Studs
Super-tech springs and retainers.
Everything besides that internally is fairly new OEM.

This is just a project car not a DD so reliability isn't as big of a priority.

I'm looking too make at least 325-350hp using the GO-AUTOWORKS street kit featured here: GO-AUTOWORKS Turbo Kits Honda Civic Acura Integra D16 B16 B18 with the optional Garrett GT28 journal bearing .63 a/r.

I understand I will need upgraded injectors and fuel pump.

Could I achieve my goal with this kit?
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Youll be the first person to ever put a gt28 on a b18c

Let us know if it works
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Yes it would work fine
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I have a Go-autoworks kit on my stock gsr w/ a turbonetics 5457. This turbo is awesome. Been running 305whp @8psi for 2 years. Just upped the boost to 10 psi and I am 370 whp. 410whp on c16. Pics and graphs are on last page of my build thread in signature.
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U could piece together a kit with all good parts for less then $2100. And have extra money for injectors and fuel pump.
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but for the convenience, $2100 kit +$400 RC injectors and $90 Walbro 255

DO IT NAO

another $5-600 for ecu/tuning and you're good to go
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Plus side is with go-autoworks you will have good customer service , Greg is a good guy to deal with... You can always call him to get a opinion .... GL
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My first turbo setup was pieced together. It was a lot of fab work to make everything work. I wish I would have gone with a autoworks kit from the get go.
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you wont make 350whp with a gt28r, simply not enough turbo
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you wont make 350whp with a gt28r, simply not enough turbo
Even with good fuel?
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What does fue have to do with it?
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my advice on turbo choice... go with a little larger turbo than you think you'll need cause you'll easily find yourself out growing that power very quickly. Happens to all of us.

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i would definitely suggest a bigger turbo
something that supports 500+
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Even with good fuel?
Nope, compressor only flows around 34lb/min at it's limit... that's 340hp at the CRANK... A straight gt28 is just a t3 60 trim compressor wheel after all. Anything past 30lb/min is pushing the compressor out of its efficiency zone

compressor map

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I think clarification is needed. GT28 as in GT28R, GT2560R, GT2860RS GT2871 etc.

This is the only one on their site that matches the option in the drop down menu

http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/jobegagtt35b.html
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Originally Posted by wantboost
Nope, compressor only flows around 34lb/min at it's limit... that's 340hp at the CRANK... A straight gt28 is just a t3 60 trim compressor wheel after all. Anything past 30lb/min is pushing the compressor out of its efficiency zone

compressor map

Thanks and good information (also to you LT), I swear turbos are confusing as crap. You have a GT28 and then about 10 different versions of it.

The GT2860R is such a popular turbo but it doesn't seem it will make hardly crap for power. I seriously wonder why most Honda owners don't look right over that and start at the GT2871R or such.
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That compressor map looks like a vagina
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Thanks and good information (also to you LT), I swear turbos are confusing as crap. You have a GT28 and then about 10 different versions of it.

The GT2860R is such a popular turbo but it doesn't seem it will make hardly crap for power. I seriously wonder why most Honda owners don't look right over that and start at the GT2871R or such.
Because the bigger the turbo the less responsive.
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Because the bigger the turbo the less responsive.
I get that but how big of a difference is a 2860 over a 2871?
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Also it says the GT28 is a "60 trim". Yet a Garrett 50 trim makes more power than it and a Garrett 57 trim makes more power than the 50 trim. I'm obviously missing something.
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That compressor map looks like a vagina
haha
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Also it says the GT28 is a "60 trim". Yet a Garrett 50 trim makes more power than it and a Garrett 57 trim makes more power than the 50 trim. I'm obviously missing something.
The trim of a wheel, whether compressor or turbine, affects performance by shifting the airflow capacity. All other factors held constant, a higher trim wheel will flow more than a smaller trim wheel. However, it is important to note that very often all other factors are not held constant. So just because a wheel is a larger trim does not necessarily mean that it will flow more.
Wheel Trim | Turbobygarrett
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Originally Posted by LightningTeg
Correct. "Trim" number is only taken into account if the exducers or inducers are the same size as the comparison.

For example, the 50, "trim" Stopsign32v is referring to is the 50,57,60 Trim T04E turbos that all share the same exducer diameter compressor wheel. The difference in outright power between the 3 is only about 20-30whp, considering they all use the same size exhaust wheel. The 50 "trim" itself, is a has a slightly different compressor wheel profile despite its size, and which is why it always seemed to have a flatter torque curve than the 57, and 60 trims, even though they share the same diameter and profile exhaust wheel.

Here's the equation.

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Not to hijack the thread but I'm also looking into the Go-autoworks GT28RS Ball Bearing. I noticed I think it has an internal wastegate, yet will it still come with an external one? My goal is similar, looking at 300 at the wheels. But i'm going to install hasport mounts along with a stage 4 comp clutch.

Originally Posted by LightningTeg
I think clarification is needed. GT28 as in GT28R, GT2560R, GT2860RS GT2871 etc.

This is the only one on their site that matches the option in the drop down menu

Garrett GT28 Journal Bearing
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Originally Posted by fluke702
Not to hijack the thread but I'm also looking into the Go-autoworks GT28RS Ball Bearing. I noticed I think it has an internal wastegate, yet will it still come with an external one? My goal is similar, looking at 300 at the wheels. But i'm going to install hasport mounts along with a stage 4 comp clutch.
That's nice!!! If your going to jack a thread, at least provide all information like your motor. Are you only wanting 300 hp? Are you ever going to want more?... yes you will!! Go for something that is responsive and leaves room to grow. The turbonetics tga 5454 would be my recommendation for a b series. It has been so impressive and responsive that my tuner is wanting to start a build with what I am using.


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