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Old 11-22-2007, 03:30 AM
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ok im rebuilding my engine bottom end with fully sleeved bottom end... pistons/rods... the works full build... my head already is very clean from previous head job and already has supertech valve train so i was going to get oversized and stainless steel valves... question is its being build for high boost but when on a daily of low boost or even when high what else would need to be built to hold the nitrous... its already will be a fully built bottom end and then fully built head...

thanks in advanced for help im sure this is about the 1,223,444,000x someone has asked this question so...
Old 11-22-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: b16 turbo and nitrous? (TegProject)

im not sure why you want nitrous ? there are plenty of cars making obsurd horsepower with no bottle
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obsurd lol
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oh i agree i know that i could probably not spray and make a little more boost and make plenty and more than enough with a bottom end hold 25+psi... but the thing is 5 to 10 years ago that would be the **** but now you see that everyday so now it nothing special and it just is a money pit... i look at it as i could always take the kit off i just want to try it out make something work to make some good numbers to be unique and try it out... im only 16 so and i built the car with only my money before some people say **** about daddy buying stuff and the stock b16 blew up so now my goal which i think ill easily make it make it run 10's before i graduate and im only a junior right now so i have alot of time... i use to just want to build it to make as much power but power=money and 16yrs.old=no income.... so now since 10 sec and even faster hondas are comon to see on the streets so im just going to try and make it a little more unique and i know it'll still have enough power to please me
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but what all do you have to do for an engine to handle large boost and spray i was wondering about just tunning it to spray different.... cause you can have them spray like a turbo (higher rpms bigger spray) so i was thinkin what if i had it backwards and it sprayed and slowly became smaller and smaller spray as boost builds...
Old 11-22-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: b16 turbo and nitrous? (TegProject)

They make nitrous kits that are made for turbo cars for low end power. They are like a 75 shot until you build a preset level of boost and it turns off. Nice for take off if you are using a huge turbo, but it also classes you different at the track.
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Ok. First. As a junior in high school, if this is how you can type, and ask questions, I truly weep for our future. Relax. Breath, and use periods.

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but if you're thinking about several 10 second passes, and have no money, then you need to think about whether or not this sport is, for lack of a better term.. "more your speed". Many of the people here who have what is considered to be a bulletproof setup running multiple passes at such low e.t.s (10 seconds or less) have in the back of their mind, regardless of the setup, the possibility that their engine may self-destruct for a multitude of reasons. They don't expect it to last forever, especially when they race these cars. It's racing, things break, that's part of the game. These setups are also specifically made (more often than not) for drag racing only, and are not a street/strip setup, made to handle double duty.

Only you can decide whether or not you believe spray is the answer for whatever you're trying to achieve. Many here don't believe that a double power adder is necessary, especially with the variety of turbos and their capabilities are out there. So, many would say (including myself), that its better to keep the little money left to make sure that the engine is maintained as opposed to spending it on a nitrous kit...it's just going to get expensive, so take note.

Sorry for the preachiness, but it's just the truth.
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oh i for sure appreciate the "preaching" honestly... but no i talked with a guy on here and i decided i'm not going to be going to the track regularly so high horsepower is uneeded for the streets i think i've decided and please correct me if you have a better idea but:::: gsr block, ls crank so its somewhat stroked... pistons/rod setup... and im thinking but open to opinions... 1st and 2nd gear low boost and a 75 to 100 shot DP then after that 3rd,4th, and 5th will be full boost of 12-14psi. and just let the turbo do the work unless i need the spray in one of those gears... i just want a powerful street car but be unique and use turbo and nitrous in my build, around here that is not as common.... Thanks in advanced,
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Default Re: b16 turbo and nitrous? (TheShodan)

You can have your cake and eat it too. But you have to spend a lot of money for something that is going to last. But if you plan on drag racing for a season you will need to tear down for next year. You need to plan on another car if you want to make it an every year thing that you want to do. Because of the down time with rebuilding motors and finding new parts for the next year. You can have your 10 sec car and drive it every day, but don't plan on it lasting 40k. You might not even make that far. I just had to replace my stage 3 clutch. Only made it 8 months. Although I have had the same cheap *** turbo since March of '05. I am trying to find a replacement for next season.
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yeah i understand all that and i know i couldnt make enough money at my age to afford a hobby like that... thats why i changed from getting a sleeved block and and going all out on big boost... im just going to put like 14psi. and a nice nitrous kit to use every now and then on the streets... and trust me i understand parts go out... i rebuilt my first engine in my driveway at night during the rain using a little plug in spot light that i had to walk around with everywhere... rebuilt my head all machining myself... blew up a clutch now it has a 6 puck stage 3 and i know damn well thats only going to last until i get it running again then its time for the twin disk...and i finally got pic suspension... lca rear sway bar sub frame connector.. thats why i just want to build a bad *** street car but ill take it to the track like 1 maybe 2x just to see what it runs and other than that it'll be daily driver and a weekend car... most 16 dont build a car like this and have a 400+ hp civic to drive on the weekends.... im just seeing if you guys have any better ideas on this turbo/nitrous build any suggestions i would gladdly appreciate it...
thank you,
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Default Re: b16 turbo and nitrous? (TegProject)

No nitrous at all. stop with that.. really. Just use the money that you would spend on the nitrous kit, and use it towards maintenance or a replacement part. Your turbo choice (if done well) will not need any nitrous assist. Seriously. don't waste the money.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Seriously. don't waste the money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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well i was just going to hardly use it so i wouldnt let my self spend alot of money on it... but i thought for the random track use... and i thought i could use it to spray the intercooler to... i know its pointless and **** but its just i want to have a turbo and nitrous set up... thanks for the help guys
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since you already have it set in your head that you're going to do it, why start a thread asking for opinions you dont plan to follow??

Thats a rhetorical question of course....
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