300whp reliable on stock b16 block?
03-23-2005, 01:29 PM
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300whp reliable on stock b16 block?
ok guys my question is can i safely make 300whp on a stock b16? also is would a turbo b16 be slow compared to a turbo ls? i blew the ls motor and i am thinking about doing a turbo b16. i want a reliable 300whp. i did a search found info on gsr motors but didnt know if would be as reliable with a b16 turbo..
03-23-2005, 01:39 PM
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no the ls engine will make more torque then the b16 with the same whp so the ls engine will be quicker. just get some pistons and rods and you should be really reliable. Otherwise you could be OK stock just don't call on that 300whp everyday because that's what'll abuse the engine
03-23-2005, 02:28 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (SiRkid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes.
tuning is key</TD></TR></TABLE>
I disagree. I have a friend who went through 4 different stock B16 shortblocks because he was breaking ringlands at 315 WHP. GT35E + Inlinepro mani + stock motor. Tuned with Autronic and all the car ever saw was 104 octane from the sunoco down the street from his place. He didn't beat on his car, but he was fairly agressive, going WOT a few times a day. At 300 WHP it'll last if you don't drive it, but if you like to get on it it will blow on you eventually.
A B16 and an LS at 300 WHP are going to feel pretty similar. What the B16 lacks in torque is basically made up for in gearing.
tuning is key</TD></TR></TABLE>
I disagree. I have a friend who went through 4 different stock B16 shortblocks because he was breaking ringlands at 315 WHP. GT35E + Inlinepro mani + stock motor. Tuned with Autronic and all the car ever saw was 104 octane from the sunoco down the street from his place. He didn't beat on his car, but he was fairly agressive, going WOT a few times a day. At 300 WHP it'll last if you don't drive it, but if you like to get on it it will blow on you eventually.
A B16 and an LS at 300 WHP are going to feel pretty similar. What the B16 lacks in torque is basically made up for in gearing.
03-23-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (Flr Power)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flr Power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree. You always break ring lands through excessive timing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree to disagree and disagree to disgree just to agree.....in any case ^^^^ is right heat break ringlands
I agree to disagree and disagree to disgree just to agree.....in any case ^^^^ is right heat break ringlands
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03-23-2005, 02:56 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (egvtec)
i've got 300 hp on a 10.6 compression stock jdm b18c. i've had it for a year and about 10,000 miles. i do at least one full boost run everyday i drive it. tuning is key.
turboEGhatch, i don't know what you guys were doing wrong. also,do you support the claim made in your sig?
turboEGhatch, i don't know what you guys were doing wrong. also,do you support the claim made in your sig?
03-23-2005, 03:02 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (ndogg)
I think the sig is for n00bs. I had one like that and I got bitched at....yeah it's not all true, but for the most part it is....it's just trying to get rid of people sayin I want xxPSi of boost instead of a HP goal
03-23-2005, 03:32 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (ndogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ndogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've got 300 hp on a 10.6 compression stock jdm b18c. i've had it for a year and about 10,000 miles. i do at least one full boost run everyday i drive it. tuning is key.
turboEGhatch, i don't know what you guys were doing wrong. also,do you support the claim made in your sig?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think we were doing anything wrong. Ask bulldogg83 how many B16 shortblocks he's gone through too. From what I've heard, the B18 blocks have stronger ringlands.
And what are you talking about, supporting the claim made in my sig? My hatch is my only car, and I drive it every single day, if that's what you're asking. If you're talking about the quote, that guy asked a question how much boost can my motor handle, somebody said boost is irrelevant but HP matters, and then he replied with that post. I thought he was completely inbred, so I put it in my sig for a chuckle every time I see it
turboEGhatch, i don't know what you guys were doing wrong. also,do you support the claim made in your sig?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think we were doing anything wrong. Ask bulldogg83 how many B16 shortblocks he's gone through too. From what I've heard, the B18 blocks have stronger ringlands.
And what are you talking about, supporting the claim made in my sig? My hatch is my only car, and I drive it every single day, if that's what you're asking. If you're talking about the quote, that guy asked a question how much boost can my motor handle, somebody said boost is irrelevant but HP matters, and then he replied with that post. I thought he was completely inbred, so I put it in my sig for a chuckle every time I see it
03-23-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: (egvtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egvtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am going to get a 38 mm tial and run about 7psi</TD></TR></TABLE>
i am running a B16 with a tial 38 and a inlinepro mani and the rest of the stuff to do it right and 7psi and i make 217whp on tom payn's mustang dyno which really makes a HF move.
so 300whp i think on that dyno would not make a motor last to long.
i am running a B16 with a tial 38 and a inlinepro mani and the rest of the stuff to do it right and 7psi and i make 217whp on tom payn's mustang dyno which really makes a HF move.
so 300whp i think on that dyno would not make a motor last to long.
03-23-2005, 06:06 PM
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theres a stock h22 makin 442whp with neptune on here...so if a h22 can make that much im pretty sure a b series can handle 300whp
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1171997
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1171997
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted2cam »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres a stock h22 makin 442whp with neptune on here...so if a h22 can make that much im pretty sure a b series can handle 300whp
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1171997</TD></TR></TABLE>
And how long do you think that 442 WHP H-series is going to live for being driven on the street? He said himself he didn't expect it to last, and I doubt it would survive 5 WOT pulls through a few gears on the street.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1171997</TD></TR></TABLE>
And how long do you think that 442 WHP H-series is going to live for being driven on the street? He said himself he didn't expect it to last, and I doubt it would survive 5 WOT pulls through a few gears on the street.
03-23-2005, 06:55 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (egvtec)
03-23-2005, 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And how long do you think that 442 WHP H-series is going to live for being driven on the street? He said himself he didn't expect it to last, and I doubt it would survive 5 WOT pulls through a few gears on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Over 70 full throttle pulls so far.... And I think that they are makin even more now with some different mods.
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And how long do you think that 442 WHP H-series is going to live for being driven on the street? He said himself he didn't expect it to last, and I doubt it would survive 5 WOT pulls through a few gears on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Over 70 full throttle pulls so far.... And I think that they are makin even more now with some different mods.
Blaze
03-23-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: 300whp reliable on stock b16 block? (turboEGhatch)
turboEGhatch. about the sig... i understand now. i wasn't sure if you were serious or if you were making fun of the guy, i know people used to argue about that fact. i've even heard "reputable" engine builders try and make the "horse power doesn't kill motors, boost does" claim.