chippy

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I'm sure this has been answered, but I never really got a complete answer reading through the previous postings about the Hondata S300v3 vs the AEM EMS v2 on e85 and real time adjustments to fuel grade. I currently have a Zeitronix Ethanol Content Analyzer unit already.

Being in the Midwest we don't get a consistent E85 blend. It will be E70 in the winter and fall and then E85 in the summer. Which unit would compensate better? From reading it looks like the AEM can translate it better than the S300, but would the S300 be more than capable of doing the same thing? This would be a on a daily driven vehicle. Thanks!

OneBadTurboCRV

Absolutely the AEM v2... it has actual map blending capabilities. What I mean by that is you could make a map for E70 and then a map for E85 and the AEM can seamlessly blend the two maps together for any ethanol content anywhere in-between.

With the S300 v3 is just a global modifier. Some trickery can be done, but it definitely isn't as seemless as the AEM.

You didn't need the Zeitronix ECA unit for either system though, only a GM FF sensor. For what it's worth, I have the Zeitronix ECA unit myself and am currently running the S300 v3, but I have been on E85 since v1.

1158

As a longtime S300 user even I say go AEM all the way. If I wasn't so far into the S300 setup I would use AEM. The S300 is a great system for what it is but I really don't think you can compare the 2. One is basically a hack (it's a great hack but it still is limited by the ECU) while the AEM is a true stand alone.

turbohatch96y7

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I use the aem v2 with a k coil cop setup.

Ive went back and forth on e85 and 91 plenty of times and the tune always stays on point.

Download the software on aems site and check out all the flex fuel settings

Then go do the same with s300

chippy

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I found the zeitronix kit for cheap, so I said why not.

I've been following your build since it's very similar to mines. Are you planning to go e85 at all or is 93 your sticking point? My thought is that 93 = less maintenance, E85 = more tuning room but more maintenance. I am from MN, so the car will be sitting for the whole winter.

I'm a noob at tuning, and most tuners aren't giving you a specific answer or good answer unless you've committed to them. lol

turbohatch96y7

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Youre going to need the software either way no matter what plat form you choose

Download them both and browse around.

What are you going to do when you want to make a small change to your idle? Go back to the tuner?

Download them and make a choice then familiarize yourself with the platform you choose

1158

I have the stuff needed on the EMS side of the e85 conversion but I still need larger injectors and a fuel pump. I also need to figure out the line issue. At this point I'm thinking I may just not bother with e85 and stay with 93. If I can squeeze 500/400 out of it once its back together and running in the next week or so I'll probably call it done. 600 on e85 would be a fun mark to hit but it wouldn't really make a difference as far as the car is concerned. If it wasn't my daily driver maybe I would go e85. I really want to get the car done and just enjoy it so I can turn my attention to putting a coyote in my 86 GT.

I am interested to see what your build does. I love the TR3030R.

chippy

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I decided to get hondata. Yes, I would've preferred AEM but I got a rocking deal on the S300v3 w/BBG.

n*werk

You are retard. Lame Post. You asked which one is better to run E85, people say AEM, then you go buy a s300 because you got " A Rocking Deal"

chippy

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AEM, would've been better the better choice. I'll get by with the Hondata unit tho.

Oh and it's "You are a retard." Not "You are retard." Unless you were trying to say, "You are retarted?"

turbohatch96y7

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Whats the run down on the build?

turbohatch96y7

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Boosted or na? Fully built?

chippy

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It's a boosted setup.

81.5mm CSS B18C1 Block
10:5.1 Arias Pistons
Eagle Rods
LS Crank
ARP Headbolts

GSR Head Stock Ports
GSC T1 Cams
GSC Valvetrain (Springs, Retainers)
ID2000
Skunk2 Pro Series Manifold
Skunk2 Alpha 64mm TB

STC TR3030R
Sypnase Ram Horn Manifold

Quick rundown of the setup.

turbohatch96y7

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Cool, so your injectors are worth more than your ems


Thats pretty smart

turbohatch96y7

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You Have a good list of parts there. All top shelf


Why skimp on the ecu??!!!


WHY??!!

chippy

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Worth more probabaly so. Got them used for $500.

chippy

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Don't think I'm skimping. I feel the hondata although not the best will be sufficient for my needs. If I was skimping we'd be talking about crome or uberdata! Lol

chippy

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Thanks everyone all though I went against the grain on this one. I feel that hondata will be sufficient for my needs at this time. Thanks again!

Have a good one folks!

turbohatch96y7

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Looking at your build list seems like the most cookie cutter setup anyway

Getting a good ems would actually be going against the grain.

Good luck

turbohatch96y7

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I apologize i just hate seeing it time and time again

1500 dollar turbo
Injectors
Cams
Etc
Then The most crucial part everyone chooses hondata

Why because it takes less time to tune than an actual stand alone

Think if that benefits your end goal

pogeeboy27

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Don't forget the cost of a $200 street tune...

turbohatch96y7

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Yeah someone just posted what a shitty 200 street tune gets you