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Old 06-11-2012, 11:42 AM   #1
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Default PS3 Media Server and Cinavia DRM

So I finally decided it was time to start watching HD content from my home media server. Normally I would just watch DVD rips over WiFi in the house, well we know that won't cut it for HD content. I picked up some Powerline adapters and got everything all set.

I got a friend to invite me to Demonoid and I started downloading blu-ray/HD movies. Well it's just been one thing after another, learned DLNA won't play MKV files, so downloaded MKV2AVI converters. Sat down to watch Project X the other night and BAM! Cinavia mutes the audio and displays a message. Downloaded 2 more copies and same thing. Haven't had time to test the couple other BluRay movies I downloaded.

I get to Googling and find out all these earlier fixes but it appears Sony did a good job of tightening up the latest firmware upgrades to make this impossible to get rid of now on PS3.

I am currently using PS3 Media Server to stream these movies from my file server. After looking it appears to be no fix and this only occurs on certain movies.

Does anyone else have any more help or Info on this and if other media players like Roku and the WD unit have this issue too or is it just the PS3.


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Old 06-11-2012, 01:03 PM   #2
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Same boat. The audio setting work around worked for only a sort while. You can DL blurays and then remux them with audio from a DVD version but thats way too much work for me. Dont want to bother trying to jailbreak my PS3 to lower the firmware either.

DVDFab released a version that supports ripping Cinavia protected Blu-ray disc for PS3 playback. Not sure why there arent more Cinavia free stuff. Hopefully soon.

My fiance and I both got new phones that have HDMI output. So for now instead of bringing my laptop down stairs, I just plug my phone to my TV, turn on wifi, and browse to movies on my NAS and play. Video isnt too shabby but no remote sucks.

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Default Re: PS3 Media Server and Cinavia DRM

i completely cut my pos3 out of my media center equation by hooking my pc up to my tv with a 40 foot hdmi cable. plays any format, no more noise+heat of the ps3, no more cinivia, and best of all, pc gaming from my couch. wins all around.
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Id love to do that but my servers on the 3rd floor in my office because I work from there and the movir room is in the basement. Guess I could run cable through attic and down hvac vent. But ehhhh
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Build an HTPC.

Is there a way to hook a receiver up with the PS3 and have it use the receiver's audio decoder?
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Default Re: PS3 Media Server and Cinavia DRM

I also ran into the problem with Project X and my PS3 a couple of weeks ago, and I've seen it happen on lots of other AVI rips that I've played in the past. It's usually hit or miss with them.

I also have a Roku XS HD box and a good laptop with a nice video card and HDMI out, so I can always play from those (which is how I watched Project X, through the laptop). But when you look at the video compared to it playing on the PS3, you notice that the graphic accelerator and processor is much better on the PS3 than on the Roku or on a high end laptop, which is the main reason why I always try to watch my movies through the PS3 first.
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Default Re: PS3 Media Server and Cinavia DRM

funny that it's a sony software issue, when the exact same files that trip the ps3 drm play just fine on my little sony roku style box.


another option is apple tv jailbroken with xbmc running on it.. mine worked extremely well and never had any issues with drm. never ran into a codec it wouldn't play either.
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I think I'm just going to buy some Roxus or WD Live, best units out and fairly affordable.
Too much BS just to watch some darn movies!!!!!

I really don't want to build another machine and have it down here because I want to avoid clutter, junk and heat. PS3 is already a damn heat furnace!
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Mini ATX HTPC cases these days are about the size of a VCR (LOL remember those?).
Not too much clutter. You'd be able to pretty much handle anything media related with it.
Toss in nice soundcard with RCA outs and you got a sound system too.

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I've been lagging so long on setting up a rig.
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Yea that would be a better option but I can still buy 2 WD Lives for less than it would cost to build one of those. Also like keeping machines to a minimum on my domain, have to deal with crap all hours of the day from work, the last thing I want is to expand my workload at home with possible issues and what not. haha yes I am lazy!

Main goal is to still keep it user friendly for the wife too.
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Yeah the WD Lives I looked in to for a bit and it looks like theres a decent amount of 3rd party support/hacks for them. I was leaning WD over Roku but never pulled the trigger on either. I think this thread just inspired me to look into piecing an HTPC again. I need a new sound system anyways.
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Haha, one step at a time for me! Need surround sound too for the downstairs.
Roku and WD Live look very similar, same price and all too.

Once I get some spare money for this I think I will buy one for upstairs and one for the basement and post back.
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Roku and WD Live look very similar, same price and all too.
I have a PS3 Slim, Roku XS HD, and a WD Live (which I returned to Costco after a week of use).

I ran all 3 with a HDMI cable (same cable) into a 1080p LED Samsung tv, and playing the same type of video from a USB flash drive, and here were my results from my own personal experience....


PS3
- best picture quality, and noticable when switching between the other 2
- hit or miss with Cinavia stopping my movies (usually within the first 2 minutes)
- most user friendly IMO
- fast interface with no lag when moving between menus
- plays multiple video formats


Roku XS
- picture quality is good, but not as good as the same video playing through the PS3
- no security issues, so movies play just fine
- wireless remote takes some getting used to with the button layout (not many buttons to use)
- lag when moving between menus and from pressing the remote until something happens on screen
- will only play .MP4 formatted videos, and not all .MP4's either (like what you can download from Demonoid)
- cheapeast option


WD Live
- picture quality was the worse out of all 3, but ever so slightly worse (darker and more fuzzy) from the Roku
- no security issues with movies
- wireless remote doesn't have many buttons and is pretty generic
- lag when moving between menus and from pressing the remote until something happens on screen
- will play a few more different movie formats


i7 Dell Laptop with Intel HD graphics card & HDMI out
- picture quality of a movie is about the same as the Roku (desktop background looks crystal clear & sharp)
- no security issues
- need to run a HDMI cable from the tv to the laptop, no remote needed
- no lag
- will play any video format, as long as you can open & play it on your computer
- more cumbersome to use since I would have to physically put my laptop in front of the tv and plug it in to use (the others would already be 'hard wired' in)



I keep my PS3 in my living room and my Roku in the family room, so my son can use it to play Angry Birds, or I can watch some free movies from it when he wants to use he tv in the living room. If I can't get a movie to play in the living room (like Project X), then I just grab my laptop and plug it in and let it play from that.
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Default Re: PS3 Media Server and Cinavia DRM

Thanks man, the kind of feedback I am looking for!
Still no idea what I will do! Guess I will just wait and think something out.

All the laptops in my house are slightly older and no HDMI outs.

Could use my damn phone through Motocast app LOL! But that doesn't play MKV or MKV converted to AVI (for some reason).
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Could use my damn phone through Motocast app LOL! But that doesn't play MKV or MKV converted to AVI (for some reason).
download RockPlayer Lite, its free and itll play most video formats including MKV. as for cinivia protected movies, i keep reading on demonoid that cinivia is only on torrents that arent directly ripped from a dvd/bluray. it looks like R5 and R6 are the ones to stay away from. find an upper that ups cinivia free movies and sub to their rss feed.
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good stuff sir. Thanks!!
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I use ES File Explorer app to browse to my movies on my NAS. I use MX player to stream, it has played everything I have thrown at it so far.
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