What's the current state of import racing in the North East.
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Re: What's the current state of import racing in the North East.
Any ethanol based fuel is going to be hard to test in the field without inconsistencies. M5 in the all motor class is going to be hard to test in the field. Its going to present the same challenges. If it was M1....easy.
I have friends on both sides of this bullshit so I want to stay out of it. One thing that I personally think import racing needs is 2 day events. The 1 day events are really really hard for people to travel any reasonable distance. Larger teams that have more cars, and higher end cars NEED 2 day events just to take care of their equipment. The prep work that goes into these serious SFWD cars and other cars is extensive. You spend weeks getting ready, tens of thousands of dollars, days to load up the truck and trailer, paying employees to be with you for the weekend, buying food and supplies, driving 2 days to and from the race.......just to show up and sit in front of a gate waiting to get in and make a few hotlap passes on your $100,000+ cars. Gate opens at 9....so you pull the truck in and setup awning and tools, setup all the cars, get them ready, tech the cars, roll straight into qualifying and hot lap that **** until eliminations are over before dark. Good luck fixing something if the car breaks...good luck feeding your employees or running multiple cars in different classes.
1 day events suck nuts for racers and any business looking to invest in sponsoring those events. I really want to go race out west. That would cost almost $15,000-20,000 and how can anyone justify that for a test n tune
I have friends on both sides of this bullshit so I want to stay out of it. One thing that I personally think import racing needs is 2 day events. The 1 day events are really really hard for people to travel any reasonable distance. Larger teams that have more cars, and higher end cars NEED 2 day events just to take care of their equipment. The prep work that goes into these serious SFWD cars and other cars is extensive. You spend weeks getting ready, tens of thousands of dollars, days to load up the truck and trailer, paying employees to be with you for the weekend, buying food and supplies, driving 2 days to and from the race.......just to show up and sit in front of a gate waiting to get in and make a few hotlap passes on your $100,000+ cars. Gate opens at 9....so you pull the truck in and setup awning and tools, setup all the cars, get them ready, tech the cars, roll straight into qualifying and hot lap that **** until eliminations are over before dark. Good luck fixing something if the car breaks...good luck feeding your employees or running multiple cars in different classes.
1 day events suck nuts for racers and any business looking to invest in sponsoring those events. I really want to go race out west. That would cost almost $15,000-20,000 and how can anyone justify that for a test n tune
#27
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Re: What's the current state of import racing in the North East.
Any ethanol based fuel is going to be hard to test in the field without inconsistencies. M5 in the all motor class is going to be hard to test in the field. Its going to present the same challenges. If it was M1....easy.
I have friends on both sides of this bullshit so I want to stay out of it. One thing that I personally think import racing needs is 2 day events. The 1 day events are really really hard for people to travel any reasonable distance. Larger teams that have more cars, and higher end cars NEED 2 day events just to take care of their equipment. The prep work that goes into these serious SFWD cars and other cars is extensive. You spend weeks getting ready, tens of thousands of dollars, days to load up the truck and trailer, paying employees to be with you for the weekend, buying food and supplies, driving 2 days to and from the race.......just to show up and sit in front of a gate waiting to get in and make a few hotlap passes on your $100,000+ cars. Gate opens at 9....so you pull the truck in and setup awning and tools, setup all the cars, get them ready, tech the cars, roll straight into qualifying and hot lap that **** until eliminations are over before dark. Good luck fixing something if the car breaks...good luck feeding your employees or running multiple cars in different classes.
1 day events suck nuts for racers and any business looking to invest in sponsoring those events. I really want to go race out west. That would cost almost $15,000-20,000 and how can anyone justify that for a test n tune
I have friends on both sides of this bullshit so I want to stay out of it. One thing that I personally think import racing needs is 2 day events. The 1 day events are really really hard for people to travel any reasonable distance. Larger teams that have more cars, and higher end cars NEED 2 day events just to take care of their equipment. The prep work that goes into these serious SFWD cars and other cars is extensive. You spend weeks getting ready, tens of thousands of dollars, days to load up the truck and trailer, paying employees to be with you for the weekend, buying food and supplies, driving 2 days to and from the race.......just to show up and sit in front of a gate waiting to get in and make a few hotlap passes on your $100,000+ cars. Gate opens at 9....so you pull the truck in and setup awning and tools, setup all the cars, get them ready, tech the cars, roll straight into qualifying and hot lap that **** until eliminations are over before dark. Good luck fixing something if the car breaks...good luck feeding your employees or running multiple cars in different classes.
1 day events suck nuts for racers and any business looking to invest in sponsoring those events. I really want to go race out west. That would cost almost $15,000-20,000 and how can anyone justify that for a test n tune
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That is the part I never understood....gates open at 9? Qualifying at like 12 or 1? Every other event, gates open at like 6 or 7 and cars are running down the lanes by 8:30 or 9
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Not sure if the attendance/racers make the race to be held on two days financially feasible for OGS/IFO/whoever but that would be a great idea.
I do think that is the next step . . . right now the races are very localized as it is impossible to take a couple of days off work to race for 3-4 hours which limits my desire to race to tracks within 6-7hr drive. I know a handful of other guys who share the sentiment.
8:30/9 would be great . . . sounds like a NHRA national event start time.
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Re: What's the current state of import racing in the North East.
Spent many a morning sleeping in the trailer at the track and waking up to guys warming their motors up.
Kind of annoying if you're super tired but most mornings I got pumped up to wake up and start getting whatever car ready.
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Our closest "big" race is World Cup and that is 12 hours. Its is a 4 day event plus 2 days of travel. It is completely packed for 4 days. We drove 18-20 hours for an IFO event, but it was to be a double header with 2 tracks within 3 hours of each other. That would have been worthwhile.
OGS 2 day events are packed both days, spectators and racers. 2 days, more money, better schedule. A team can justify loading up their small fortune and making the trek. I wish IFO would do a trial of a 2 day event at a high turnout location to see if he could make financial sense of it.
OGS 2 day events are packed both days, spectators and racers. 2 days, more money, better schedule. A team can justify loading up their small fortune and making the trek. I wish IFO would do a trial of a 2 day event at a high turnout location to see if he could make financial sense of it.
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I wish the NW corner would get on pace with events. 1 IFO a year in WA and OR and that's it. Gladly would take the politics to be able to get some events up here lol. Would be nice to watch speedfactory race in person more than once a year and get some other heavy hitters in town as well. The west coast just doesn't have the support/community/teams like the east coast though
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OGS is ruining the sport. Way to many rules and stipulations for a small class. I asked Javi 2 years ago if the fall nationals were going to have more than 2 quick 32 cars at it like the previous summer national had and he blocked me n deleted my comment. OGS is a complete joke, its not a racers event anymore like IFO. Whats OGS have... Si shootout... slow and stupid... 11:50/10:50... great its index racing which is gay and full of duds that oil the track down. SFWD/AMP/ProStock ok cool I need a $150,000 car to compete in that class.
For instance I have a 800-1000hp S2000 and what class in OGS could I ever run in? sure wont be index... I think if there was a more refined IFO style event in the north east the support would be HUGE. Something that allowed say a 67mm S2000, Supra, and nitrous mustang to run in the same classes (by offsetting weights and FI trims) Then have your prostock modified chassis class, your all out AMP class which you can run whatever your heart desires... fastest car wins. Who gives a **** if someone is running a 108x90.5 K series on Black and it weights 1500lbs lol... everyone else step it up. What ever happened to run what you brung. Javi is de-volving the sport and not pushing progression. He is monopolizing it and just trying to make money with his gay car limbo and lifestyle stage smh...
For instance I have a 800-1000hp S2000 and what class in OGS could I ever run in? sure wont be index... I think if there was a more refined IFO style event in the north east the support would be HUGE. Something that allowed say a 67mm S2000, Supra, and nitrous mustang to run in the same classes (by offsetting weights and FI trims) Then have your prostock modified chassis class, your all out AMP class which you can run whatever your heart desires... fastest car wins. Who gives a **** if someone is running a 108x90.5 K series on Black and it weights 1500lbs lol... everyone else step it up. What ever happened to run what you brung. Javi is de-volving the sport and not pushing progression. He is monopolizing it and just trying to make money with his gay car limbo and lifestyle stage smh...
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Re: What's the current state of import racing in the North East.
OGS is ruining the sport. Way to many rules and stipulations for a small class. I asked Javi 2 years ago if the fall nationals were going to have more than 2 quick 32 cars at it like the previous summer national had and he blocked me n deleted my comment. OGS is a complete joke, its not a racers event anymore like IFO. Whats OGS have... Si shootout... slow and stupid... 11:50/10:50... great its index racing which is gay and full of duds that oil the track down. SFWD/AMP/ProStock ok cool I need a $150,000 car to compete in that class.
For instance I have a 800-1000hp S2000 and what class in OGS could I ever run in? sure wont be index... I think if there was a more refined IFO style event in the north east the support would be HUGE. Something that allowed say a 67mm S2000, Supra, and nitrous mustang to run in the same classes (by offsetting weights and FI trims) Then have your prostock modified chassis class, your all out AMP class which you can run whatever your heart desires... fastest car wins. Who gives a **** if someone is running a 108x90.5 K series on Black and it weights 1500lbs lol... everyone else step it up. What ever happened to run what you brung. Javi is de-volving the sport and not pushing progression. He is monopolizing it and just trying to make money with his gay car limbo and lifestyle stage smh...
For instance I have a 800-1000hp S2000 and what class in OGS could I ever run in? sure wont be index... I think if there was a more refined IFO style event in the north east the support would be HUGE. Something that allowed say a 67mm S2000, Supra, and nitrous mustang to run in the same classes (by offsetting weights and FI trims) Then have your prostock modified chassis class, your all out AMP class which you can run whatever your heart desires... fastest car wins. Who gives a **** if someone is running a 108x90.5 K series on Black and it weights 1500lbs lol... everyone else step it up. What ever happened to run what you brung. Javi is de-volving the sport and not pushing progression. He is monopolizing it and just trying to make money with his gay car limbo and lifestyle stage smh...
IFO has FIP you can run in that. MDIR has a few classes that you can race in. They put on 3 races a year.
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