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Old 10-15-2011, 10:45 AM
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okay so at IFO KC this past sunday i was getting ready to make my first pass and did my 3rd gear burnout and right when i finished burning out my clutch would not disengage when i pushed the pedal in. so i took it off today and the disc had welded itself to the pressure plate. now ive always done 2nd ear burnouts but i tried a 3rd gear burnout in front of my house before IFO and it worked much better than 2nd gear so i thought id give it a shot at the track and this is what happened. i guess ill be sticking to 2nd gear burnouts from now on.

since im running a CG trans, im using a 92-00 civic ACTION pressure plate with a 86-89 accord/prelude (a20 engine) clutchnet disc.

i cant afford to buy a whole new clutch right now.. the pressure plate is 6 years old but i believe is still in good shape. is there any way i can have it resurfaced? or has anyone ever resurfaced their pressure plates before? and where do you take it to get it done? i usually take my flywheels to oreilys... and also, does anyone know who makes a good a20 clutch disc besides clutchnet??

Old 10-15-2011, 10:54 AM
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Yea a 3rd gear burnout with a clutch like that is asking for trouble lol

You can't resurface a pressure plate and expect it to work properly. Just wait and buy a real clutch or have something made from one of the bigger names.
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I had the same problem years ago and had to bUy a new clutch
Old 10-15-2011, 10:58 AM
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Yea a 3rd gear burnout with a clutch like that is asking for trouble lol

You can't resurface a pressure plate and expect it to work properly. Just wait and buy a real clutch or have something made from one of the bigger names.
not even if you barely take any material at all off? i basically just need to resurface it enough to get the disc material off it...

what bigger name company makes a good 6 puck disc? itll be a year before i can even afford a whole new clutch, let alone a higher dollar custom one because im sure the bigger name companies dont make 86-89 accord/prelude clutches..

screw it, i may just get another clutchnet disc and dont do 3rd gear burnouts anymore..
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2 words
competition clutch........

you will never use another brand
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you stated it would take you a year to purchase a new clutch, competition clutches arent expensive a all?
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competition doesnt make a clutch for 86-89 accords..

ACT and clutchmasters do though...
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not even if you barely take any material at all off? i basically just need to resurface it enough to get the disc material off it...

what bigger name company makes a good 6 puck disc? itll be a year before i can even afford a whole new clutch, let alone a higher dollar custom one because im sure the bigger name companies dont make 86-89 accord/prelude clutches..

screw it, i may just get another clutchnet disc and dont do 3rd gear burnouts anymore..
I don't condone the use of these all that often, but you could always get yourself a 0% CC for a year and hook yourself up with something nice for now lol

Even if you skim the pressure plate, it's changing the amount of pressure on the disc. Will it work, sure. Will it last? Who knows lol

A lot of companies make a great clutch. Sounds like the downfall of the cheap trans swap is the lack of available clutches. But I'm sure comp, ACT, CM etc. can put something together for ya.
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you stated it would take you a year to purchase a new clutch, competition clutches arent expensive a all?
yes, its been a very rough year for me..
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I don't condone the use of these all that often, but you could always get yourself a 0% CC for a year and hook yourself up with something nice for now lol

Even if you skim the pressure plate, it's changing the amount of pressure on the disc. Will it work, sure. Will it last? Who knows lol

A lot of companies make a great clutch. Sounds like the downfall of the cheap trans swap is the lack of available clutches. But I'm sure comp, ACT, CM etc. can put something together for ya.
i already have CC's..

how about this...whatever amount of material is taken off the pressure plate, i take the same amount off the stepped part of the flywheel...wouldnt that make things even?
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I'm out. Too much ghetto rigging in here lol

You're car is beautiful, do it some justice and spend the money.
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I'm out. Too much ghetto rigging in here lol

You're car is beautiful, do it some justice and spend the money.
i didnt say i was doing anything yet..just asking questions cause for all i know alot of people may have done this before? dont know until i ask. i thought for sure people have resurfaced pressure plates before but i guess not...thats why i ask first before i do something.

i dont have the money, but would you care to send me some lol.

i just want to fix this right for cheap as possible.....or my car is going to be sittin on stands for who knows how long...im guessing until at least until spring time when i get a tax refund.
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almost every clutch company sells clutch discs seperately...doesnt this mean people are replacing the discs and reusing a used pressure plate? do they not resurface it or anything when installing the new disc?
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Default Re: welded the clutch...questions

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i already have CC's..

how about this...whatever amount of material is taken off the pressure plate, i take the same amount off the stepped part of the flywheel...wouldnt that make things even?
no that would just make the overall clearance greater. lol.

you would have to ADD material to the flywheel for however much you took away from the pressure plate for your idea to work...which is pretty much not possible.
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no that would just make the overall clearance greater. lol.

you would have to ADD material to the flywheel for however much you took away from the pressure plate for your idea to work...which is pretty much not possible.
i dont think you got it.. i was talking about taking material off the stepped portion of the flywheel....the surface that the pressure plate bolts up to. not taking anything off flywheel surface that the disc sits on.
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you will never use another brand
My roommate's competition stage 4 welded itself. I've had nothing but problems from the competition clutch I had as well. Switched to a spec twin disk and everything has been gravy.
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i got some answers here..

https://honda-tech.com/forums/tech-misc-15/resurfacing-pressure-plate-888236/

i think im going to try and clean up the surface of the pressure plate the best i can and order a ACT disc from lightning motorsports.
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clutch material is not that hard. just use a die grinder and a red abrasive pad and try to remove the disc material. with out removing the pressure plate material.
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Then yea if you have someone that will do that. Sometimes liability questions come up doing stuff like that.
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Originally Posted by rota92
Sounds like the downfall of the cheap trans swap is the lack of available clutches. But I'm sure comp, ACT, CM etc. can put something together for ya.
CM, and ACT have off the shelf clutches that work.



Mike, when i swapped to act disc, i didnt resurface the PP, but then again i didnt have material stuck to the flywheel LOL.

Here is the CM (top) ACT on bott. I'm trying to find the pic of the disc on the flywheel. I know it's 12mm difference, but it works fine. The full pad still sits on the flywheel.





Here is the disc on flywheel
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theres no need to get the 200mm 86 integra disc from ACT when they also sell the correct 212mm 86 accord disc...

in your picture, thats not a 12mm difference. that looks like the correct disc for that flywheel...you either have a 212mm disc or a 200mm disc and are using a 88-89 civic flywheel instead of a 90-01 flywheel.. ?
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yea ive reused my pressure plate many times with different discs....but ive never had **** welded to it like this to worry about..lol

the pressure plate has always looked like crap but according to ACT, looks dont mean anything...as long as the surface is flat its all good. getting it resurfaced would be just for looks.
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Thats a z6 flywheel and disc with an a20 hub. I'm looking for a pic of the act disc on the flywheel. I might just have to go take the damn car apart haha.


Oh, now i now the accord disc is 212mm. LOL. Didnt know that before. I'll probably throw a new one in for vegas IFO in Dec.
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I run a clutchnet single disc unsprung dual diaphragm clutch (red one) without any problems at all. Probably 50+ 3rd gear burnouts and a bunch of low 10 second 145+ traps. Never had issues with the clutch slipping either but I think I was just about at that point. I think its a very high quality single disc clutch to go through the abuse i've given it. Funny that you guys mention to get a "Bigger" name clutch because clutchnet actually sells their clutches to those "bigger" companies who then re-brand them with their name and probably charge more.

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