I.C.C.

My Wavetrac should be installed this week, and the car up and running within the next 2-3 weeks.. All I can say for right now is it is a very well thought out and designed, solid *** piece....

IN VTEC

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We've been on a Quaife for the last three years from 450whp and 8600rpm to over 700whp and 10k+ rpm. I would use either of the other two diff's if we got a really good deal on one for a back-up transmission. Quaife's definitely aren't affordable enough for us to have more than one. If we blow up the diff, that's it for the event and probably a good part of the season.

MFactory

This for Nichole's car?

SiRay6

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my girlfriend has a wavetrac in her road race integra...although the lsd itself is functional...we have had axles get stuck 3 times now where we have to drop the tranny in order to get the axle out.

Her car has been at Autotech for the last 3 days and they are still working on it to get the axle out. Keep in mind, this is after the updated part has been replaced by Autotech. Good thing is Autotech is willing to reimburse us on the labor

We are really frustrated because changing out axles now is like a clutch job

We think this is the last draw for us and we are looking at another brand...Does Mfactory get stuck axles? (sorry this is off topic).

-Ray

InDub

My axles come out fine with my Mfactory diff

NASOHC

When I swapped to an H23 trans. on my Accord the length of the axles was an issue and would have axle seals leaking oil after a while - took axles out numerous times to correct issue running my Wavetrac; axles never got stuck. That was an old issue I guess.

Three main reasons I chose Wavetrac:

1. Wavetrac's low traction grip technology (great for daily driven cars like mine)
2. Built in the USA with excellent materials.
3. Lifetime Warranty!!!

Drag cars running 9's with Wavetrac so I you can say it's proven to be a great diff.

JDMH22Prelude

I know this is a Quaife/MFactory/Wavetrac thread.. but I just blew up a stock diff and picked up a trans w/factory LSD and have the option to put an OBX diff in while its apart instead of running a stock one for the last race of the year (I'm short on cash)...
whats better: OBX LSD or Stock LSD?

*Note: Car has GSR Trans and 500 HP

JJsMotorsports

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I ran JDM lsd with 700+ whp and never had a problem with axles or breaking issues......The Viscous is another issue, These would fall apart with my all motor 205whp at the ring gear.
I'm currently looking to see if MFactory will give me a Discount on one of thier units.....?

ALL IMPORT

got a quaif if anyone needs one at a good deal. perfect condition "guaranteed"IM me

Urban_Indian

Anyone every heard the story of Quaiff USA and Quaiff UK?


Anyone tried to get warranty with Quaiff recently?....... Let me know, because as far as I know Quaiff USA is no more and to get warranty you had to possibly ship to UK?

The Quaiffs in order to save money were using an inferior metal in the mass of the LSDs they built, once you broke it they gave you the upgraded metal so that it would reduce the chance of breaking.

Heard from a top source about this a couple months ago. And that is why I bought the MFactory. The only problem I had with the MFactory was the casting was .002 out so the bearing wouldnt fit in there. Had the casing machined down, fit like a glove.

TurboChurch

Scotchbrite can remove .002 in like .002 seconds. I wouldnt consider that an issue.

NASOHC

Autotech was Quaife America. Autotech makes Wavetrac now but still sells Quaife i think. Guess they figured they could come up with their own product.

Found a video that shows a Wavetrac in action! I know, it's a Beemer but you'll get the picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tudbb1JRVRQ

MFactory is just a Quaife replica IMO.

Aquafina

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MFactory is far from a Quaife replica. Quaife itself is a replica.

I've dealt with two Quaife warranties.

One on a 35mm LSD I purchased from a dealer on here. Bearing hubs were undersized (.03x" off the top of my head). Bearings fell into place just by setting them on the hubs, and fell off simply by turning the diff over. There were no 35mm's left to exchange it for so I told the dealer I wanted a refund (after speaking with Autotech's tech dept). I was told it would be a 30% restocking fee (it was drop shipped from Autotech). Had to jump through hoops to get it exchanged (Wil at Exospeed had one in stock and sent it to me).

The other was a customers 40mm that the housing cracked on (no debris in trans or inside LSD, it just cracked, sub 250whp). Had the customer scan the original receipt for me and contacted Autotech. Shipped it to them and was told it would be back in 2 weeks. Every week they would tell me that they don't have the parts in stock to fix it and they should be in within the next 2 days. 6 weeks later I finally received it.

fredg98

I agree with you on just about everything here, but I dont agree that the only thing that matters is price. The Wavetrac is the only helical LSD that still drives with a wheel off the ground. I guess if all you do is drag race, that doesnt matter as much, but for those of us who drive around corners, it matters alot. I used to have a Quaife and seemed like I was always losing speed in tight corners - couldnt exit without lots of drama and wheelspin, so I would have to lift and wait for the grip to come back - not fun. I just put a Wavetrac in my Civic and that wave thing really works. Now, if I lift a wheel, it still spins, but not for long, and the other wheel never stops pulling -no drama and I dont have to lift. It's really smooth.
I think that the performance is better and that's worth the money to me.

MFactory

If you are putting yourself in the position where you have a wheel lift off the ground all the time when cornering, then I would suggest going for a proper Plate LSD as you sound as if you need it and could make full use of one

fredg98

Yeah, I thought about that, but didnt want to deal with the wear and it's still a street car 90% of the time. And the wheel wasnt airborne or anything, I think just real light - my buddy didnt see it off the ground, but is sure spun. I think the Wavetrac was a good choice - it hooks up great and no maintenance.

MFactory

Not much wear/maintenance, you just need to choose the correct type of Plate LSD, one which has progressive (and adjustable) lock. These can be driven on a street car fine

TheWickedOne

For the past couple of years.. I've used Queef and WaveTrac, i'm sure the Mfactory is good too . The only LSD i've completely demolished was a Kaaz unit .. and all it took was one good launch or 60 ft on a small tire.

MFactory

What happened? The nibs/teeth on the plates breaking off? I've seen that happen to quite a few Kaaz units

TheWickedOne

Exactly, The broken teeth locked up the diff and automagically turned it into a spool

ahobbs

i have Mfactory LSD I wont be making as much power as some of you guys but i dont expect any problems.

NASOHC

Being that this is a Wavetrac vs. Quaife thread - Wavetrac works great "out-of-the-box" with any application (race or street) without dealing with correct type plate LSD or extra weight and modifications sometimes needed to fine tune a track car. MFactory has a nice price going for them and will work with any application just fine I'm sure, but it's still not offering anything new or better IMO. If I'm anyone is spending $650-895 on an LSD plus labor money and time then I think the choice is obvious.

rudebwoy

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mfactory here, street and strip car around 500whp.
used to run a obx, destroyed it on the autobahn

97-EK9

I am really unclear about the direct diffrences between a plate and an helical lsd. I know off subject but I would like to know.

Aquafina

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Helical uses a series of gears to operate whereas the plate uses a series of clutches and gears.