stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
may i ask could this be a problem related to not changing the pressure plate to handle the power tranfer for that type of clutch or does the pressure plate have anything to do with with problem
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
i had a few problems with that clutch as well on my old setup, but comp upgraded me once we talked to the tech there and i just had to pay shipping so it worked out alright
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
i have seen these clutches wear out quickly almost instantly in one of my friends car. I don't like how they use spray painted black oem pressure plates on almost every single one of their clutches except for the higher en twin discs. I had one myself (stage 4 six puck on a basically stock 165whp gsr) and enjoyed it and it worked well for me. But i have heard more than a few horror stories. The one in my friends car the springs broke out of the disc and screwed up his flywheel and the whole clutch. Competition was very hesitant to help him out and said that it was his fault because of the way he installed it and didn't give him anything for it and basically told him to go **** himself.
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i have seen these clutches wear out quickly almost instantly in one of my friends car. I don't like how they use spray painted black oem pressure plates on almost every single one of their clutches except for the higher en twin discs. I had one myself (stage 4 six puck on a basically stock 165whp gsr) and enjoyed it and it worked well for me. But i have heard more than a few horror stories. The one in my friends car the springs broke out of the disc and screwed up his flywheel and the whole clutch. Competition was very hesitant to help him out and said that it was his fault because of the way he installed it and didn't give him anything for it and basically told him to go **** himself.
its quite obvious they are not the same. especially if you ever push the clutch pedal. haha
dual layer diaphragm arms, i didnt know stock PP's had that.
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Comp single disk clutches suck!!
the pressure plate step height is not to oem spec
this is a common problem w/ their single disk clutches and i have personaly seen it time and time again after installing them in customers cars and our race cars.
if you have to use their flywheel for it to work properly, that means the pp was not designed to oem spec for step height.
you will not have this problem w/ clutchmasters or exedy, from my experiences they are both made to factory spec.
that being said, the comp twin disks are great.
i would never recommend a comp single disk to anyone.
not only do they not want to shift at high rpm but they also grab while the pedal is in and it doesnt matter how you adjust the pedal.
this is a problem w/ the step height spec on the pressure plate.
i have always known comp clutch to be a great company and good people, however its too bad they havent fixed this issue yet even after having tons of feedback from fellow racers
the pressure plate step height is not to oem spec
this is a common problem w/ their single disk clutches and i have personaly seen it time and time again after installing them in customers cars and our race cars.
if you have to use their flywheel for it to work properly, that means the pp was not designed to oem spec for step height.
you will not have this problem w/ clutchmasters or exedy, from my experiences they are both made to factory spec.
that being said, the comp twin disks are great.
i would never recommend a comp single disk to anyone.
not only do they not want to shift at high rpm but they also grab while the pedal is in and it doesnt matter how you adjust the pedal.
this is a problem w/ the step height spec on the pressure plate.
i have always known comp clutch to be a great company and good people, however its too bad they havent fixed this issue yet even after having tons of feedback from fellow racers
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
I'm having a similar disengagement issue with a single disc comp clutch. It's their stage 3 kevlar, and after 200 miles, I have literally destroyed every synchro in my tranny trying to shift at normal rpm (this is my daily). I have also cracked my center console trying to force the shifter into 1st gear. The only way to really shift into 1st is by turning the motor off, sliding the shifter into first, and starting the motor in first gear. Needless to say I burnt out my starter doing that...
The clutch basicaly intermittently fails to disengage. I will have my foot BURIED in the floor, and the clutch continues to stay engaged. The clutch master and slave, and line have all been replaced. The pedal has also been adjusted numerous different ways.
I sent the clutch back to CC and was told that the clutch was fine, and that the only thing they can do for me is to give me an 70 dollar discount on a 250 dollar flywheel. Are you kidding me? What kind of company manufactures defective parts and expects you to shell out more cash to buy another part of theirs?
I'm done with this clutch and will be looking elsewhere. If Kyle cannot provide a refund, I will be calling it a loss, and chalking one up to experience. There is no way I'm reinstalling that clutch into my car. My 4 year old chattering exedy was reinstalled and works beautifully in comparison to this garbage CC calls a product.
The clutch basicaly intermittently fails to disengage. I will have my foot BURIED in the floor, and the clutch continues to stay engaged. The clutch master and slave, and line have all been replaced. The pedal has also been adjusted numerous different ways.
I sent the clutch back to CC and was told that the clutch was fine, and that the only thing they can do for me is to give me an 70 dollar discount on a 250 dollar flywheel. Are you kidding me? What kind of company manufactures defective parts and expects you to shell out more cash to buy another part of theirs?
I'm done with this clutch and will be looking elsewhere. If Kyle cannot provide a refund, I will be calling it a loss, and chalking one up to experience. There is no way I'm reinstalling that clutch into my car. My 4 year old chattering exedy was reinstalled and works beautifully in comparison to this garbage CC calls a product.
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i installed a stage 4 clutch on my gsr,replacement for my stage 1 exedy with flywheel use the same flywheel with the stage 4 clutch after installing it gears wont go in on a high rpm flywheel has been resurface,new cylinder slave and master...i`ve seen a lot of guys with same problem is there any reason why me and other people have the same problem with the clutch?
I had a CC stage 4 with a good amont of races on it, but the disk was missing some chucks of material after inspection. I called CC they told me it overheated, they recommended the stage 5 clutch, that clucth only lasted maybe 10 passes down the track and then high shifts where impossilbe without grinding and other noises, after inspection of that clucth one of the three rivets let go causing some damage. I remember that guy from CC said you cant break the stage 5. I have an all motor car. I ended up going with a twin disk from another company with no problems so far. But the whole rivet issue was the only one I have seen or heard from my research so it could be a fluke in the assembly process.
i installed a stage 4 clutch on my gsr,replacement for my stage 1 exedy with flywheel use the same flywheel with the stage 4 clutch after installing it gears wont go in on a high rpm flywheel has been resurface,new cylinder slave and master...i`ve seen a lot of guys with same problem is there any reason why me and other people have the same problem with the clutch?
I had a CC stage 4 with a good amont of races on it, but the disk was missing some chucks of material after inspection. I called CC they told me it overheated, they recommended the stage 5 clutch, that clucth only lasted maybe 10 passes down the track and then high shifts where impossilbe without grinding and other noises, after inspection of that clucth one of the three rivets let go causing some damage. I remember that guy from CC said you cant break the stage 5. I have an all motor car. I ended up going with a twin disk from another company with no problems so far. But the whole rivet issue was the only one I have seen or heard from my research so it could be a fluke in the assembly process.
IT IS THE PRESSURE PLATE!!!!!!!
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
I had the same problems from day one with this damn CC STG 5. I had terrible track times just because I couldn't stage right. It would not go into gear at high RPMs and I could barely stage right cause the car would always roll forward at the Xmas tree. Since i've had it in for about a year or 2, it's a lil better now. Still pulls with clutch pushed in though.
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
Furthermore, it is not advertised on their website that there is a requirement to use their flywheel. A few of their vendors explicitly say "You need a Competition Clutch flywheel to work with a Competition Clutch kit", which leads me to believe they CC is selectively releasing this info.
It all seems like a marketing scheme to me.
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bringing this back to life! im having the same issue with the same clutch.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...9#post44911869
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...9#post44911869
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
I have had my CC Stage 4 6-puck sprung now for a couple years and I have had no issues with it period. I'm running a stock flywheel as well and it all takes a regular daily beating on my Integra.
I do feel for those who are having issues though as Clutchmasters royally screwed up on my Cobalt SS supercharged clutches!
I do feel for those who are having issues though as Clutchmasters royally screwed up on my Cobalt SS supercharged clutches!
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Re: stage 4 competition clutch 6 puck problem
i installed a stage 4 clutch on my gsr,replacement for my stage 1 exedy with flywheel use the same flywheel with the stage 4 clutch after installing it gears wont go in on a high rpm flywheel has been resurface,new cylinder slave and master...i`ve seen a lot of guys with same problem is there any reason why me and other people have the same problem with the clutch?
You need a comp flywheel. Everyone has this prob.
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