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Old 02-03-2012, 08:54 PM
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Has anyone made this work yet if so how did you do so?
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

haven't done it yet but was going to set it up to use a vss sensor and log it.
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Currently working on a rear speed kit for s300/ectune/crome/etc.
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Originally Posted by andyKAIZENSPEED
Currently working on a rear speed kit for s300/ectune/crome/etc.
ETA tell it will be advailable?
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Yes it can be made to work...

http://www.xenocron.com/diy-wheel-sp...kit-p-728.html

And pretty soon using the new digital inputs on the s300 v2 you should be able to input this directly to the s300 board for rear wheel data logging

Right now basically you have to install the sensor, run the three wires to the factory speedo connector (or directly to the Ecu)

You'll have to do some configuration based on what you are using to count wheel revolutions (cutting teeth of your rear abs ring or making a custom wheel), and you will have to adjust your gear ratios in Hondata to make the numbers work.

From a drag racing standpoint, you won't need to configure it to an exact mph...just that you will have to know where you are on the track (what gear you are in) and base the boost settings in that gear to be the max you can run without losing too much traction.

What will be nice is the extra inputs on the s300 v2 as well to dial that in or at least be able to log ground speed versus front wheel speed

I have asked Hondata to be able to allow access to the stock VSS tooth count so you can change it in the software versus making the hardware compatible...let's hope they come through on that
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

would this also work on kpro. they have the new v3 with the extra inputs already
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Hondata is releasing a new board of the S300?
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Think about it the ecu is like 20 years old .
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Originally Posted by FelixTuning
Think about it the ecu is like 20 years old .

who cares how old it is? If you can think outside the box for a second you can think of alot of things the ecu can do. The s300 is capable of running rear wheel speed, its been done. The s300 is capable of running 2 solenoids for boost control, its been done. The s300 can do gear shift cut sequence internally where the driver is nothing more then ballast weight, its been done. The s300/20 year old ecu can do alot of cool ****. Alot of which has been done and been going on for years now. Its just takes a while for h-t to catch up to them.
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Originally Posted by miller
who cares how old it is? If you can think outside the box for a second you can think of alot of things the ecu can do. The s300 is capable of running rear wheel speed, its been done. The s300 is capable of running 2 solenoids for boost control, its been done. The s300 can do gear shift cut sequence internally where the driver is nothing more then ballast weight, its been done. The s300/20 year old ecu can do alot of cool ****. Alot of which has been done and been going on for years now. Its just takes a while for h-t to catch up to them.
Would anyone care to share their setup on how they did it
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Originally Posted by miller
who cares how old it is? If you can think outside the box for a second you can think of alot of things the ecu can do. The s300 is capable of running rear wheel speed, its been done. The s300 is capable of running 2 solenoids for boost control, its been done. The s300 can do gear shift cut sequence internally where the driver is nothing more then ballast weight, its been done. The s300/20 year old ecu can do alot of cool ****. Alot of which has been done and been going on for years now. Its just takes a while for h-t to catch up to them.
Not putting down the p28 and the s300 logging cus I tune plenty of cars with it ,but it got it's limits .
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Originally Posted by bads2k
would this also work on kpro. they have the new v3 with the extra inputs already
Yes, just remember the ecu is an electronic device...it looks at voltages, counts pulses, notes time, etc

The first thing you have to consider is what you have available to you through the interface (software) between the ecu and laptop. Some things you have the ability to alter via software and some things you have to do via hardware...

Yes it can be done in Kpro as well...as long as you can produce a signal to the ecu that is can read, and that you have access to change certain things here or there
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Factory front VSS sensor outputs 4 pulses per revolution. So to make the real similar to front just use 4 pulse setup. It will be close.
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Looks like Hondata released today the NEW S300 V2.
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Originally Posted by andyKAIZENSPEED
Currently working on a rear speed kit for s300/ectune/crome/etc.
will this be for both non abs and abs rears for honda?
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

So will this "kit" be pretty painless with the v2?
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Originally Posted by Zer0_SpeedWorks
will this be for both non abs and abs rears for honda?
I second this question! love to set up boost by speed in ectune. how is this gonna effect dynoing or is this simply track tuning only? did i read somewhere about highjacking the front vss and also having the rear?
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Originally Posted by K20EF8Dx
I second this question! love to set up boost by speed in ectune. how is this gonna effect dynoing or is this simply track tuning only? did i read somewhere about highjacking the front vss and also having the rear?
ABS sensors are MAG sensors...two wire and the ECU is looking for a Hall Effect signal

You can convert the MAG to a Hall signal using the MSD box (see other thread) or you can do it with a Hall sensor without the conversion, you just have to provide the ECU a tooth count it wants to see.
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Originally Posted by Zer0_SpeedWorks
will this be for both non abs and abs rears for honda?
As of right now I am working on a trigger wheel that will press onto the hub. So it will work if you have abs or non abs.The trigger will be in the same location so abs cars will no longer run the stock abs.

Originally Posted by PFI_NAYR_ONE
So will this "kit" be pretty painless with the v2?
My goal is to make it as simple as possible. The kit will product the same signal as the front vss so it can be ran with any honda software. You could even run it on a stock ecu if you wanted
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Originally Posted by andyKAIZENSPEED
As of right now I am working on a trigger wheel that will press onto the hub. So it will work if you have abs or non abs.The trigger will be in the same location so abs cars will no longer run the stock abs.



My goal is to make it as simple as possible. The kit will product the same signal as the front vss so it can be ran with any honda software. You could even run it on a stock ecu if you wanted
That will be awesome. Let us know if you got it to work and thanks for your input
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Originally Posted by K20EF8Dx
I second this question! love to set up boost by speed in ectune. how is this gonna effect dynoing or is this simply track tuning only? did i read somewhere about highjacking the front vss and also having the rear?
Good question. The front VSS will be retained and the signal will be input to the box. The box will come with two jumper plugs. One will let the ecu see the rear and one will let the ecu see the front. An optional harness will be available that plugs into the box in place of the jumper. This harness will have a momentary switch or toggle switch (your choice) that will switch output between front and rear speed. This allows you to do your burnout with the front vss and then go down the track with the rear.
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Very promising!

Any time frame on when it will be released?
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Can you make it to where we can log front and rear at the same time... This would be awsome
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Default Re: Rear Wheel Speed With Hondata S300?

Logging front and rear speed at the same time is limited by the hardware. Right now, the stock ecu can't do it.
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Reid, actually that's not entirely a correct statement.....


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