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Old 03-22-2005, 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard some guys were grinding the top of the girdle in order to make the tranny case close. This seems to be a great addition for all racers that don't use 5th gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"great" if it fit better...

Oh well, I guess I'll just quadruple check my work.
Old 03-23-2005, 02:37 PM
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spoke with john at PG today.. He said that the shims need to be re-arranged, and the instructions that I have are the old ones that dont mention this... hopefully that will do the trick....

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ykracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spoke with john at PG today.. He said that the shims need to be re-arranged, and the instructions that I have are the old ones that dont mention this... hopefully that will do the trick....</TD></TR></TABLE>

You actually got ahold of the guy!? i've been chasing him down for the past 3 months!
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Nice post. I didnt know until now that it will get rid of 5th gear....
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Default Re: pics of phantom grip cradle install and thoughts on it (thermal)

one thing to add here, the instructions i got just say to remove the 5th gears. the 5th gear synchro also needs to be removed otherwise the case will not close. my dumb moment for the week.
Old 03-23-2005, 07:01 PM
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correct, if you dont remove the syncro the shaft will be about a 1/4 inch too long and wont fit the case.
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Tony 1 I need help.my tranny wont close.
Old 03-25-2005, 12:42 PM
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make sure the large washer on the top of the main shaft is aligned correctly or the case will not close either. Check the snap ring on the countershaft too. Both of these wil hold the case about 1/4" from closing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedDreamz.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure the large washer on the top of the main shaft is aligned correctly or the case will not close either. Check the snap ring on the countershaft too. Both of these wil hold the case about 1/4" from closing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedDreamz.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"></TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the help.....but....i have opened and closed about a hundred of these,so thats the first thing i line up.
it just dont wanna close,i cant get the snap ring to clip i either..
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well, after re-arranging the shims, my problem has been fixed...
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&lt;-----(pats himself on his back) i figured it out. After reading the whole thread and drinking a cold one,i decided to go back to the shop try some things on the thread,like remove the syncro for 5th gear,and rearrange the shims.Turns out that i needed to put all 3 shims on top to bring up the bearing so the clip will go in and it also alligned all the gears up perfect.
here are some pics.
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Thanx Honda-tech
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aggressivemotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&lt;-----(pats himself on his back) i figured it out. After reading the whole thread and drinking a cold one,i decided to go back to the shop try some things on the thread,like remove the syncro for 5th gear,and rearrange the shims.Turns out that i needed to put all 3 shims on top to bring up the bearing so the clip will go in and it also alligned all the gears up perfect.
here are some pics.

Thanx Honda-tech </TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of diff is that?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what kind of diff is that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's a richmond spool.
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some help? I install mine and it close fine. but when driving I cant shift. before the cuff it shift smooth. after no gears go in while driving.
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Default Re: pics of phantom grip cradle install and thoughts on it

Almost ten years later! Didn't know guys still ran the phantom setup
Old 11-25-2014, 05:08 AM
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yeah I just installed it. I have lots of power and I keep breaking 4th gear. 625 hp
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i thought ill give it a shot. but i cant find instruction and the company seems to be un responsive to my emails. any help will be appreciated.
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Default Re: pics of phantom grip cradle install and thoughts on it

Possible it may be shimmed wrong. I have a liberty cuff and I may have still done it the wrong way, but it worked and is still going strong. I used a caliper gauge to measure the stock 5th gear height and shimmed the bearing on the cuff up until it matched the height.
Id recommend calling another company that still actively makes and installs those. Mfactory, liberty, and IPG probably can give more info. They sell them and use them in their race cars Im sure.
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i guess i'll pull it back out and get rid of it. I had it laying around. I'll buy another from a company that has support in case i have any other problems.
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Pictures and measurements from the install will help.
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Default Re: pics of phantom grip cradle install and thoughts on it

correct me if i am Wrong
when installing a GEAR SHAFT BRACE
shouldn't the counter shaft and brace move freely
up and down on main shaft
allowing you to re-clip the snap ring to counter shaft top bearing

why would you want to shim bearing up?... the gears will not line up...
im saying this, cause i have this issue on my GSR
my counter shaft and brace do not move up or down freely or easly on the main shaft, it moves but only with force aka prying
it seem like brace bearing that is on main shaft is binding or that cuff is to short ( causing it to be too tight)

ive watch this over and over again

8:50 to the end for reference

this a Phantom Grip Brace
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