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Old 05-21-2015, 06:26 PM
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After waiting 3+ months on Comp to pull through with sending me the right turbo, I think I'm pulling the plug on that ordeal, and looking for another option.

PTE 7285 gen2
GTX 4502
BW FMW 72mm

Any other options I'm missing? I think the GTX is out of the question for me since it utilizes coolant lines, and I deleted the coolant lines and would like to sway away from adding them back.


Is the gen2 72 head and shoulders above the BW FMW72, making it worth the extra $2000, give or take?

Weekend street racer, turned fully track legal, and just trying to take the right steps to making the car fun/competitive on the west coast.
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Also for the BW, do all the 72mm FMW's come w/ the same size turbine wheel? I see bw's typically come with the 83mm or 87mm option. Guessing the 87mm will be the preferred choice?
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People have gone 8's on 6766, 6466, Borg 67mm s400, etc. You don't need a 72 for a weekend racer much less a 7285.

What are you goals realistically?
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Originally Posted by vw1320
People have gone 8's on 6766, 6466, Borg 67mm s400, etc. You don't need a 72 for a weekend racer much less a 7285.

What are you goals realistically?
I hear ya on that. Just curious if the 7285 gen2 will make my life that much easier, because its that much better. Because if it is, then I'd consider the drastic price difference.


Realistic goals? After fixing w/e bugs come with the territory of the car build... 9.3@165, and start working on chopping it down to a bottm 9 @ whatever mph I end up.

Idk if I have the funds to make that leap into the 8s, but a low consistent 9 will make me pretty much competitive for whatever events are held over on this side of the coast.


Previously came from a 6766 at 35-40psi on a lot milder street car build. Took it to the track twice, and did a best of 10.31@147 1.88 60' at 35psi, with very little seat time. I knew right then, with some dedication to prepping the suspension, boost control, and flow tweaks, I could probably make some good strides in making it competitive.

No True Street or weight breaks for 67mm for the local events here, so 72mm is where I'd like the car to be.


Car is an srt-4, with a pretty aggressive top end, 11.5:1 motor, 3" hotside/4" cold side, 105mm tb, etc... Our motors are at a disadvantage to the honda guys, so just doing what I can to ensure the car can be competitive and flow well up top.
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Originally Posted by Pumpking.
I hear ya on that. Just curious if the 7285 gen2 will make my life that much easier, because its that much better. Because if it is, then I'd consider the drastic price difference.


Realistic goals? After fixing w/e bugs come with the territory of the car build... 9.3@165, and start working on chopping it down to a bottm 9 @ whatever mph I end up.

Idk if I have the funds to make that leap into the 8s, but a low consistent 9 will make me pretty much competitive for whatever events are held over on this side of the coast.


Previously came from a 6766 at 35-40psi on a lot milder street car build. Took it to the track twice, and did a best of 10.31@147 1.88 60' at 35psi, with very little seat time. I knew right then, with some dedication to prepping the suspension, boost control, and flow tweaks, I could probably make some good strides in making it competitive.

No True Street or weight breaks for 67mm for the local events here, so 72mm is where I'd like the car to be.


Car is an srt-4, with a pretty aggressive top end, 11.5:1 motor, 3" hotside/4" cold side, 105mm tb, etc... Our motors are at a disadvantage to the honda guys, so just doing what I can to ensure the car can be competitive and flow well up top.
Gen2 fo'sho
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We run consistent mid 9's on a gen1 6266 2700lb Integra. 6766 will get low 9's all
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^^Turbo-LS man that is a lot of power out of that gen1 6266 827hp
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If you aren't trying to break records and just wanna have a good time, why not pick up a 1st gen 7285 that all these guys are selling to go to the Gen 2?

For what it's worth, Shawn Ramey went 8.3 @ 185 mph and also has the OGS record at 8.44 @ 182 with an off the shelf Gen 1 7285. Put a good engine program under it with a good ECU and tuner and you can run at the top of the class. There are a handful of guys winning like 90% of the events right now and there are a couple common denominators.
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Love my gen2 7285 and I haven't even begun to scratch the surface with it.

With your car being a manual just gotta make sure you can launch aggressively enough and spin it high enough to not fall out of the power band on shifts.
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If your engine is setup right you can squeeze a ton of power out of the 6266.
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Originally Posted by 4piston
If you aren't trying to break records and just wanna have a good time, why not pick up a 1st gen 7285 that all these guys are selling to go to the Gen 2?

For what it's worth, Shawn Ramey went 8.3 @ 185 mph and also has the OGS record at 8.44 @ 182 with an off the shelf Gen 1 7285. Put a good engine program under it with a good ECU and tuner and you can run at the top of the class. There are a handful of guys winning like 90% of the events right now and there are a couple common denominators.
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Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
If your engine is setup right you can squeeze a ton of power out of the 6266.
yea I need to do more hw LOL
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Originally Posted by itspools
Love my gen2 7285 and I haven't even begun to scratch the surface with it.

With your car being a manual just gotta make sure you can launch aggressively enough and spin it high enough to not fall out of the power band on shifts.

Was your BW you had, an 83mm TW or the 87mm? Considerable power shift to the right w/ your 7285, nigel? We'll get the launch control set up to leave out the hole properly. It'll be rev'd high forsure, and I think we have the motor package set up so it should still be fairly efficient up top, given our lackluster flowing heads in comparison to the B/K's, lol.


4piston, true that about the gen1's...Maybe I should keep my eyes peeled in the classifieds. Possible to buy a used gen1 and send to precision for a gen2 CW?

Turbo-ls...I owned a 6262 for 3yrs... 36-42psi on the street. Fun turbo, but not looking to downsize. 67mm was funner in every way for me, and a pretty substantial power difference. 830 out of a 62mm just wouldn't happen on our motor.
Looking for 1000whp, and natural progression has me wanting to step up from the 67mm to a 72.
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Default Re: Best current crop of 72mms?

Without a doubt, if you can't get a good Comp turbo, which I can get you if needed, the Precision 7285 gen 1 or 2 will do the job in the 72mm size.
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Originally Posted by locash
Without a doubt, if you can't get a good Comp turbo, which I can get you if needed, the Precision 7285 gen 1 or 2 will do the job in the 72mm size.
3 months and counting, on waiting for a turbo from Comp. Good customer service, but bad wait times. Just asked for a refund yesterday, and will let that work itself out. At this point, even if they had it readily available, I'd be nervous to take it, for if there were any defects or failures, I could be sidelined for another 3-4 months for a rebuild or new turbo.

Working on a refund, and will try and go from there. Seems like the pte7285 is the recommended turbo by a landslide in here. Guessing the BW fmw72 is that inferior? Just curious so as to I know whether I should even waste my time on considering one or not.
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If you're looking for all out power, the BW is not the way to go.

Originally Posted by Pumpking.
3 months and counting, on waiting for a turbo from Comp. Good customer service, but bad wait times. Just asked for a refund yesterday, and will let that work itself out. At this point, even if they had it readily available, I'd be nervous to take it, for if there were any defects or failures, I could be sidelined for another 3-4 months for a rebuild or new turbo.

Working on a refund, and will try and go from there. Seems like the pte7285 is the recommended turbo by a landslide in here. Guessing the BW fmw72 is that inferior? Just curious so as to I know whether I should even waste my time on considering one or not.
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Joe are you currently running the comp 72? We just purchased a Force Performance Gt4599r for the Integra and coming to play with the big boys. End of this season IFO.
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My car left way harder with my s467 then my 7285. I've stepped up my shot out of the hole and need to see how it does with proper bottle pressure. Before I would cut low 1.5 60s, best of 1.48. Now I haven't been better then 1.61. Also the 7285 hits so much harder it's making dialing in the boost ramp more "fun".

I'm a Borg Warner fan but as Joe mentioned for all out power it's not the way to go.
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I know your looking for a 72mm, but if your not looking to run any certain class and still be very streetable on the weekends, you may want to check out the PTE 6870. Im using it on my car and easily maxed out my fuel system making over 900hp and still had plenty left in it to make 1000+.
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wow i still remeber my password to log in to this site... Anyway i had a bob wagner 72mm class limit turbo on my car for a season. It was ok it makes decent power, the center section is bigger than most. It is NOT the turbo used for serious competition. The GTX 4502 is also a cool turbo, you dont have to run the coolant line if your gonna drag the car from my knowledge from people using it or that have used it. It doesnt like the heat and the turbine wheels arnt at the top of the class. The Gen2 precision is what i switched to just recently and that thing makes power like no joke. Boost will come on alot different. The 7 blade compressor wheel change and the turbine wheel is very very nice... Yes it retails for $3999 which at a discount shoud be alittle cheaper. If you dont have the budget to go 8's and be competitive which cost alot to maintain from parts breaking. I would get a precision 6780, That thing is a beast also.....

If your on the westcoast hit up joe (locash) to set you up on the Comp stuff, If you want a precision hit up Alex (sheepey).... Im almost sure they can get you a unit faster than you can obtain 1 since they are dealers/distributors

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Originally Posted by Pumpking.
Was your BW you had, an 83mm TW or the 87mm? Considerable power shift to the right w/ your 7285, nigel? We'll get the launch control set up to leave out the hole properly. It'll be rev'd high forsure, and I think we have the motor package set up so it should still be fairly efficient up top, given our lackluster flowing heads in comparison to the B/K's, lol.


4piston, true that about the gen1's...Maybe I should keep my eyes peeled in the classifieds. Possible to buy a used gen1 and send to precision for a gen2 CW?

Turbo-ls...I owned a 6262 for 3yrs... 36-42psi on the street. Fun turbo, but not looking to downsize. 67mm was funner in every way for me, and a pretty substantial power difference. 830 out of a 62mm just wouldn't happen on our motor.
Looking for 1000whp, and natural progression has me wanting to step up from the 67mm to a 72.
The answer is no. Gotta buy a whole new turbo. They changed the backplate, cover, and wheel. and some little misc parts in the CHRA.
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