hondaracing84

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So, Ive been curious ever since I started running in this class. Does anyone know what the record is for the IFO AMS class?
And please dont hate on the question. Dont say "Oh no, another record thread" Lets be honest, after research has been done, how else can we find the info.

Ive done the research, the fastest Ive seen is an 11.466 @ 121.59 mph posted on the 2014 Even Results on the IFO page. But the problem is, there are a lot of events that dont show the race results. And there might be cars at other events that fall in the AMS rules that I cant find.

Hyper16-Johnny

There's a blue Jerry Built eg hatch with Mexican plates here in California that runs consistent mid 10s.

hondaracing84

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Really? In the AMS class, so full interior and exhaust and everything? I expected that there might be faster than 11.4, but didnt expect consistent mid 10s.

PSI GUY

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We are building a car as well to compete as per class rules for the AMS class. Stock front end, bumpers, full exhaust, interior, etc. Doesn't say anything about weight though that I have seen. Had planned on hopefully having the car running 11.70s-11.80s consistently so hopefully we don't run into any mid 10 second class cars or the weekend won't go so well....lol.

hondaracing84

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There isnt really a weight limitation in the AMS class. Mainly because there is only so much weight you can remove while leaving interior and exhaust before you have to start cutting and get lexan. And cutting and lexan is not allowed. But there are other ways to drop a bunch of weight without cutting that are allowed

paulzy

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Do you guys know if they enforce the interior rule for back seats, trunk panels, and such?

PSI GUY

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Has to be complete that I understood.

PSI GUY

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*For questions about rules, contact IFO directly: Contact Us

PAYOUTS - $300 - Must have 4 qualifiers for full payout. Less than four qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must be capable of running 14.99 and faster.

Winner - $200
R/U - $100
Semi 1 - $50 - if enough cars for a Quick 8
Semi 1 - $50 - if enough cars for a Quick 8

CLASS SUMMARY
Heads-Up, Pro-tree (.400) class for naturally aspirated, street driven, oem frame import brand/sport compacts ONLY. Must have full interior, exhaust, and current tags/registration. Two qualifying passes permitted.

BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Current tags and registration required. One piece and widened front ends prohibited. Bumpers can not be removed. Tail lights and head lights required (one may be removed for induction purposes)

INTERIOR
Doors must open and close from inside and outside the vehicle. No center drive configurations. All seats (front and back), door panels, dash, and carpet (front and back) must remain inside vehicle. No lexan allowed. No cutting for weight reduction purposes allowed.

CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Vehicles must have functional doors. All vehicles must retain factory chassis. Vehicles must maintain stock drive configuration. Wheelie bars and straight axles prohibited.

ENGINE
Import vehicles may run 4 & 6 cylinder motors, as well as rotory motors. Domestic manufactured vehicles are limited to FWD, 4 cylinder engines. Out of manufacture engine swaps permitted. *updated 4/30/14

POWER ADDERS
No power adders allowed. Power adders include turbochargers, superchargers, and nitrous oxide systems. All nitrous components prohibited even if bottle is not present.

DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
FWD or RWD allowed. Stock driveline configuration must remain. Any transmission allowed.

EXHAUST
Open exhaust prohibited. Must run DOT approved muffler that exits behind rear axle. Excessively loud exhaust prohibited (determined at IFO tech's discretion).

TIRES
Slicks permitted for FWD only (limit 25.0). DOT approved tires required for AWD and RWD vehicles.

***If someone in your class is not within the rules, immediately ask for IFO staff to protest. Once your vehicle is staged, you accept all conditions of the race.

hondaracing84

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As soon as one of the competitors who is following the rules sees no back seats or panels, they will most likely tell cliff and then cliff will enforce the rules. I wouldnt count on it going un-noticed.

SP GARAGE

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Fred Collins has been able to go 11.8's in full interior. And yes there are ways to cut weight with cutting the car and lexan. Asking as you go low 12's you can be very competitive in the class

PSI GUY

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Ours went 12.16 @ 114 first time out with the wrong size slicks for the gearing, just wanted to test out the car. Have a lot of learning to do and some seat time to get in. Also the 1.80 60fts can be much improved.

hondaracing84

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Do you mean "without cutting the car and lexan"? Im assuming so since the AMS class rules prohibit that. Ive done all the weight reduction you can do without the cutting and lexan. My only problem is, my car used to be a sfwd car and still has the cage in it. I bought a new shell Im going to switch everything over, so that will drop some more weight without the cage. Fastest Ive been so far is 11.9, and that was the final run of the season. Might have gone faster if I had another pass. Every pass I made kept getting faster and faster. Cant wait to see what happens in 2015.

hondaracing84

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Is that in your wifes setup that you switched out of her integra into a 93 hatch that you discussed about back in September?

PSI GUY

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Yeah, got a bunch of changes on the go for it as well. Basically wanted to get a baseline for where it was with the swap as the Integra was running 12.70s. Going to be running 23" slicks with a 4.93 Final drive so that should fix the gearing up, picked up a new EMS, getting a header built and am going up quite a bit in compression as we are going to run C85 full time instead of switching at the track from street fuel. I don't know how many events we will be able to get to, but would like to try.

backyardtech

two years ago the blacksheep squad was traveling the us going to every i.f.o. possible and was running high 10's in ams and amp. They ran both classes because the car was fast enough for amp but set up to be legal for ams.it was a flat black k series insight

KdEj1

Best time I pulled was 11.7 @ 116mph.. AMS set up
Helping with another 94 that should be able to beat that with ease if all goes well..

KdEj1

How did they do that? I tried running multiple classes and it was a no go..

backyardtech

i guess they bought two tickets and tech the car in for both classes, they were smart i never seen that done before until i seen them do it. only thing that sucks about that is that you have to hotlap your car every so often

fmfkid250

you can run more then 1 class....

guy_from_nerk

^^ This, they also ran in FIS against turbo cars and did pretty well. Just have to buy multiple tech cards to compete in multiple classes, I ran SFWD and FIS at the April IFO last year here in Ohio, never again! The car was hating life by time it was over with.

B20VtecVillain

This isn't exactly Honda related I guess, but speaking of the IFO AMS class, there is a shop local to me that has plans to "dominate" this coming season with a VQ powered Sentra. Give em hell guys!

hondaracing84

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Interesting. Id like to see how that turns out.

PSI GUY

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Bringing back an old thread, does anyone know if there are fuel restrictions in the AMS class, want to possibly switch fuels but don't want to put something that isn't allowed.

h2.4

It doesn't list any fuel restritions in the guide. The car I tuned at the shop is running 92 pump. He has been as fast as 11.46 @ 117-118ish, but didn't run that quick at the Woodburn IFO this year. But he won due to a misshift from the other driver. He was still in the 11.50's though.

PSI GUY

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We've only been out twice with the car but have gone 11.92 @ 118 so there is more in it, just need some seat time. Want to possibly switch to M5 fuel to gain a bit more but wasn't sure if it was restricted.