KidFrost

UPDATE:::
The car made 530HP 340Ft Lbs after my E85 retune this year!

But my best run all year was a 7.1x ET at 103 MPH.



New goals for the car include E85 retune, 520 HP, and a 6.9x Et in the 1/8th mile and a trip to the 1/4 mile with an ET of nothing worse than a 10.9x Pass..



I am a Novice at best when it comes to Drag Racing but…. Well you have to start somewhere, right. I have little experience actually launching from a tree, I have about 20 passes in various 150-250 HP cars. One being my 2006 RSX Type-S with simple bolt on’s. The car made 212 whp and 160 ft/lbs and I ran a 9.4ET @ 79MHP- 1/8 mile, on bald tires. Anyway I have recently purchased a car that will be a great learning experience for me. It’s a 94 Civic that makes 405 hp at 16 PSI, it has a full 6pt Cage, 24.5 M/T Slicks, also has an LSD tranny. The previous owner claimed the car went consistent 11.9x's @ 119-120mph on 13psi. It has since been tuned to 16 PSI making the aforementioned 405 HP. So I am trying to come up with a realistic, attainable goal for this upcoming year. I will be running a lot at a semi-local 1/8 mile track until I feel it won't be a complete waste of time to drive 4 hrs to a 1/4 mile track.


OK, the car.

Motor/Turbo setup:
-B18c1 block
-81mm CP 9:1 pistons
-Eagle rods
-ACL bearing
-ITR crank
-Stock ITR head
-ITR intake manifold
-Nuekin ramhorn manifold
-T1 Development 3" DP modified by Synapse Motorsport
-GT3076R .63ar
-PTE 880cc injectors
-Hondata S300
-Straight 3" SS exhaust
-Tial 44mm wastegate(10psi spring)
-Tial Q BOV
-2.5" Synapse Motorsport charge piping powdercoated black
-Full Race (PWR) 475hp IC
-Hallman Pro Rx MBC
-Full Race vacuum distribution block
-Hasport Motor Mounts w/ 88A inserts
-Avid billet front torque mounts

Transmission:
-JDM ITR trans
-B16 1st&2nd, GSR 3rd&4th LS 5thw/ ITR 4.78 Final Drive- Blox LSD
-GSR shift linkage
-Competition Clutch Stage 5, 4 puck sprung
-ACT Streetlite flywheel


Interior:
-93' GS-R front Seats
-Alpine CDA 9815 Head unit w/ Alpine Type S speakers front/rear
-AEM UEGO wideband AFR unit
-Autometer 30vac/30boost Boost gauge
-Autometer Oil pressure gauge
-EX cluster w/ tach to 9k RPMs
-Full Race 6 pt Chromoly Roll Cage, professionally welded
-GSR shift **** w/ Skunk 2 single bend shifter

Fuel Setup:
-8an feed and 6an return lines running from a new stock fuel tank to engine bay
-Walbro Inline 190lph
-Walbro Intank 255lph
-Summit inline fuel filter
-BDL Fuel Rail
-Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator

So, as the title states I am looking for input as to what the car should run on a 1/4 or even 1/8 mile track. Similar setups would be helpful. Also things like Tire PSI, Launch RPM and Shift RPM would all be good info as well.

Before spring I hope to have a Full-Race Traction Bar and Strange Engineering Suspension setup.

OOH Also I have SEARCHED… ALOT..... And I haven’t found enough cars close enough to mine to formulate my own conclusion on what the car should run.. Also I know it is impossible to get a mathematically correct answer considering all the differences in cars, weather, altitude, Ect. ect. Not to mention the variable of ME. I am simply looking for a range of what the car should definitely run.

Anybody who has a problem with my thread either move on to a different thread or PM me.

Thanks guys.

-KidFrost

INFO I have attained so far:

SLIM NOTHING

Answer: take it to the track and find out..

KidFrost

Right.... In the middle of January in the great northeast... when ALL the tracks are open...

The 6 inches of snow just kills my traction tho.. Hey Slim should I stud my slicks?

pgpbubble

Figure roughly 11.4-11.6 @122-125

KidFrost

Thanks for the input.

Yea? thats a better number then I was thinkin..

How much time are you shedding for my inexperience? just curious

Do you think "the car" with an experienced driver is capable of high 10's?

SLIM NOTHING

im in pa also... so you cant cry.. its called wait till spring and be suprised.. for the reason i said what i said is that you answered your own question in your original post.. you have just as much guess in what your car will run as anyoen else.. you said it your self.. "Also I know it is impossible to get a mathematically correct answer considering all the differences in cars, weather, altitude, Ect. ect. Not to mention the variable of ME" ... then why ask? just saying man..

AROD

unless u take some weigh out, you will be stuck in the 11's even with a good driver. I know this car, i raced it on our highways around here.

KidFrost

Dont think i can loose too much more weight. short of dry icing the sound deadening material off the floor.. which i might just do.

thx for the input

DarKStaR5

just for reference i make similar power with my integra. 2400lbs, ~410whp ls/v,gsr trans,57trim turbo, on blown suspension and 22" slicks(spinning 1st) i ran 11.13@127. I should be 10s next time out with the new suspension and 24.5s

KidFrost

right but i know there has to be a ton of people with very similar setups who are not expert drag racers that have an idea of what the car should run.. thats what im looking for.

KidFrost

No ****!.. that gives me some hope that my car can do 10's .. i am sure you are a much better driver than i am or will be by the end of this year but it gives me a good idea.. thanks...

BTW my long term goal IS to see this car into the high 10's.. One day... lol

AROD

thats easy turn up the boost to 25 or so and even if you suck at driving you should hit 10.9

mangina

I ran 11.1 with about the same power.(same turbo)

LS AzZkIkr

I would say the car should do a lot better than 11.9's. I would say low 11's possibly high 10's with the perfect pass. Nice car man!

KidFrost

I assume that was in a DC2?


Wow ... Never fails, retards will always exist on here... I keep thinking Honda-Tech will change..

Nice info.. will try..


Well the 11.9's were at 11 PSI where the car made only 365 HP.
Thanks, I cant really call it my own yet.. but thats why I bought it..

gizzmo222

All depends on the car, weather, track conditions, etc. I've on 11.1 @ 125 on a 60-1 that made 400hp, then swtiched to a 6765 and went 11.0 at 126 with 466hp (car was also breaking up). Run it come spring and let us know how you make out!!

KidFrost

I definatley intend on running it this spring.. Hopefully I have all my parts by then.

But from what i am seeing the car should capable of Low to mid 11's.

With a traction bar, good suspension, and a perfect pass maybe even a 10.9x.. but who knows.

So i guess i can shoot for the high side and say 11.6ET 1/4 mile--- 7.4ET 1/8 mile.. would be a good goal for me but i still dont know how i will do.

d16z6Tcrx

really depends on your weight. it takes 430whp in a 2400lb car to run 10.9s 2 130mph if your coupe weights like mine id say 11.30s @ 123. that what my slips were looking like on 11psi. but your gearing confuses me. adding a gsr 3rd and 4th but keeping the 4.7?

ekb20

we ran 11.46 @ 124 mph car fully gutted and it made 350 - 360 whp on a eg coupe.

evilone

this always helped me figure out where i should be

http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php

Turbo-charged

I went 10.7 with 430 HP at 2400 lon a single stage of boost.10's are totally possible. What's stopping you from turning it up more out of curiosity.

da_dude

It should break 10s no problems. I ran 11.3 @ 124 at 386whp on my d16.

KidFrost

Damn thats quick for 360hp.. I guess I have to see what my car weighs with the cage..
Thanks for the info..
What slicks were you running?
What pressure where ur slicks at?
Traction bar?
Launch RPM?

Wow you must be a damn good driver. As to why I havent turned it up is well for a few reasons.. one being stock sleeves (dont wanna push the reliability), the car runs AMAZING where its at.. and I think that would only make it harder for me to learn how to race.
I plan on tuning it to around 18-20 PSI / 450hp.. Once I feel I can handle it where its at now.

For the same reason I think running my first passes at 11PSI/ 365hp whould be a good way to start?. What do you think?

What slicks were you running?
What pressure where ur slicks at?
Traction bar?
Suspension setup?
Launch RPM?

Again very nice numbers.. and also again I have to assume you are an exceptional driver. So I will pick you brain for some knowleadge as well: Was this in an EG coupe?
What slicks were you running?
What pressure where ur slicks at?
Traction bar?
Suspension setup?
Launch RPM?

KidFrost

Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 2200 pounds and HP of 405 is 10.24 seconds and MPH of 130.85 MPH.

Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 2400 pounds and HP of 405 is 10.54 seconds and MPH of 127.11 MPH.

Well that sure set the bar high. LOL
Low side weight guess (2200) puts me at 10.24ET..

High side weight guess (2400) was still 10.54ET..

Both numbers I would add at least a full second to..

JMO.. I would bet that that calculator uses an algorithm for RWD cars.. they will always run faster with the same HP/Weight Ratio..

KidFrost

Funny how close the numbers can be...