AutoBahn

well i got the alarm installed by Circuit city. well i never looked at it till today. they did a real shitty job securing wires and what not.




i looked at the harness today.seems like every all the wires need to make remote start work are wired in.

*******besides tach and nuetral saftey switch orange(acc), pink/white(ign2), purple(output for starter- starter side) and brown(brake shut down)*******


going by the manual in the attachment and this diagram herehttp://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...etail/163.html
alarm relay________________________ car harness
red/wht- 12v input........................................... white- constant
red- 12v input............................................. .... white- constant
red- 12v input............................................. .... white- constant
pink- ign1.............................................. .. blk/yel- ign1
pink/wht-ign2...........................................wht/blk-ign2
orange- acc............................................... ....yellow- acc
green- starter(key side)............................................ blk/wht- starter
purple- starter(starter side).................................... ????????????


questions-

1.where do i put the purple wire that says starter(starter side) i know opposite of key side but where?

2. where can i get a tach signal from. can i go in from the tach wire on the back of the gauge? injectors? i have a kswap so no dizzy( dont know if theres a sorce there or not)

3. nuetral saftey switch- in the manual its showin that its a ground in an auto car. so do i ground it out? and does it need a toggle switch like said in the manual?

4. is there anything need to do to hook remote start up?

believe it or not im mecp cert. but i havent done anything in years? but just cause i got the paper dont mean i know what im doin lol.


****** at the very bottom of the pdf attachment you'll find a pin out of the alarm brain.every wire thats connected to it**********

thanks in advance.

jay24k

going by the manual in the attachment and this diagram herehttp://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...etail/163.html
alarm relay________________________ car harness
red/wht- 12v input........................................... white- constant
red- 12v input............................................. .... white- constant
red- 12v input............................................. .... white- constant
pink- ign1.............................................. .. blk/yel- ign1
pink/wht-ign2...........................................wht/blk-ign2
orange- acc............................................... ....yellow- acc
green- starter(key side)............................................ blk/wht- starter
purple- starter(starter side).................................... ????????????


questions-

1.where do i put the purple wire that says starter(starter side) i know opposite of key side but where?

You should only have a single starter wire. Clip the wire. You attach the green wire to the cut side that goes to away from your key. Attach the purple to the cut portion that leads directly to your key side. You only attach it to that wire. You are basically splicing it to route the starter through your alarm.

2. where can i get a tach signal from. can i go in from the tach wire on the back of the gauge? injectors? i have a kswap so no dizzy( dont know if theres a sorce there or not)

Tach signal I got from using a multimeter to the back of my gauge. I took my gauge out, removed the connector, and then watched it go up and down. Make sure your multimeter is in AC mode.

3. nuetral saftey switch- in the manual its showin that its a ground in an auto car. so do i ground it out? and does it need a toggle switch like said in the manual?

Pretty sure you wire this up to your emergency brake wire.

4. is there anything need to do to hook remote start up?

believe it or not im mecp cert. but i havent done anything in years? but just cause i got the paper dont mean i know what im doin lol.

Does your car have an immobilizer? You will need a bypass for that if it does. You will also need to hook up the orange/black wire groudn when armed if they didn't already and the status output. Then on the 5 pin connector, make sure all those are hooked up including brake shutdown, hood pinswitch, and you will need to hook it up so your clutch engages during the remote start.

Lots of fun.

AutoBahn

thanx alot for the input. help out a lot with some confusion

got two more questions tho then hopefully ill be good. on the remote start and can start askin other questions about this alarm.

1. on the 5 pin switch the whit/blue wire-2nd status defogger... what is that?


2. the orange/blk wire you mention earlier. it says it sends 500ma ground when armed. do i just ground this out or no?

MONSTERZC

3. nuetral saftey switch- in the manual its showin that its a ground in an auto car. so do i ground it out? and does it need a toggle switch like said in the manual?

Pretty sure you wire this up to your emergency brake wire.

No you don't you wire it to a toggle switch like the manual says. So if you take the car in for service they can't remote start and damage things.

jay24k

The neutral does go to the safety switch and from there you tie it to your park/neutral on your gear shift. The problem here is you are using a manual. So it is recommended on other models to tie this to your emergency brake. You do flip the toggle off just in case as previous mentioned. I figured that's what you meant when you asked about it.

The blue defogger is so you can turn your defogger on remotely as well. I ignored it as I really could care less about my defogger. As long as my heat/AC is set to on, my car can cool or heat up. My rear defogger will defrost anything in less then 2 minutes anyway after activating it.

The orange wire that sends a -500ma ground when armed is used for other devices. I'm not sure why I said that in my previous post. Probably because I typed it up quick before I left work.

You will need to also tie the violet wire to your clutch to signal the bypass to your clutch so your car can start. Make sure you use a diode on it or your starter will engage everytime you pussh your clutch in. (Don't ask how I found out lol)

AutoBahn

so i dont have to have all 5 wires hooked up then? i know that orange/ blk says it goes to like a starter kill or somethin like that.

say if i wanted to have my defrogger come on, cause its still cold here, do i just tie it in to the wire on the back of the dfog switch?

and the violet wire. talkin bout the the violet(-) 200ma starter output wire in the 4 pin plug thats comin off of the relay on pg59 of that pdf posted?

on the diode, do i put the cathode on the clutch side, or flip it around and put it on the violet wire side

thanx again for all the help. i greatly appreciate it.

jay24k

Yea that just sends a signal while alarmed which could be used for a relay. Starter kill on a manual is pretty useless since it can be jump started anyway.

In the manual, it should say where that wire ties into for the defogger. You have to test for it. Honestly, I don't know that one. I was tired of wiring in my car and defogger wasn't critical for me. I live in Florida .

That violet wire should be correct. That will send a signal to your clutch bypass switch so it allows the starter to fire.

On the diode, I honestly don't remember which way i had it. I do know I wired it and soldered it to the violet wire and then spliced the violet wire into the clutch bypass. I can't recall on my prelude if it was a blue or pink wire. I think it was backwards compared to wiring up additional sensors. I wired it wrong the first time. You don't need this if you do the bypass on the clutch but I would not recommend this as it really isn't safe.

Also, on my alarm, I have to do several steps to do remote start for a manual vehicle. On this alarm, just browsing through the docs, I didn't see that. So I'm assuming it is made for an automatic so it is technically illegal and unsafe. The reason is if your car is in gear, the car will start unless you are able to add additional mods to your gear shifter underneath.

I'm by no means an expert but I just did my car and asked exactly the same questions you did. Only difference is I did the whole wiring. What a pita.

Davus

Starter kill is pretty useless on auto and manual alike. The starter's +12 constant and its toggle pole are right next to each other. Piece of metal between the poles, go time.

Anyway, good vehicle-specific information in this thread. Very beneficial to those confused about remote start setups, especially with (albeit simple) Honda wiring.

Comedy option to OP: Take it back and have them redo it.

AutoBahn

hahaha yea i tried that lol. cause the CC by me hasnt closed fully yet. i went to them and said man i got a lifetime warranty install on this. the few installers there laughed at me.

do yall know how to bypass the clutch. i dont feel like dealing with that diode thing. plus i read on a few forums when i searched that its a lot easier to just do that. i know its the pink wire but what do i do with it? dumb question i know, but i just dont wanna mess up.

AutoBahn

also i was wondering if f i can get a the brake shut down signal( brown wire on the remote start garness) from the top of the brake pedal. i guess its call the brake plunger. just wondering, cause itll make the wiring a lot more hidden if i can get it from there.

Davus

I did. My 96 Civic had 4 wires, I probed each one with a multimeter 'til I found one that hit +12v when depressed. Thus far this does not seem to damage the circuit, other than when I smashed the switch trying to force my dashboard on.

jdmb18hatch

you can also find the brake wire (green/white) in the driver side harness going to the rear of the vehicle (pop off the kick panel and follow the harness) there are a few green/white wires in there, so make sure to use a multimeter to test. this way is easier cause you dont have to stand on your head to reach the brake switch. hope this helps.

AutoBahn

yea thanks guys helped a lot. i was wondering if i was lookin for 12v when depressed cause its a negative when active. and ye ai figured it was in the drivers kick panel to. but i have several wires tapped from there. i want a less wires in one spot as i can if that makes sense. that way trying to disarm anything will be a bitch. esp. trying to find all the wires.

got any insight on how to bypass the clutch? or how to hook up the diode needed.

it was earlier in the post that maybe its wired cathode side is the opposite side of the input for the alarm. so like the purple 200ma starter trigger on the alarm harness will be connected to the diode side with out the silver strip right?

AutoBahn

did a bit of searching. but didnt find a definite answer. but thisis what i found

"to bypass the clutch you put the second starter wire(im guessin thats the small purple one im talkin bout) to the pink wire on the clutch pedal. yocan either tap into the wire or cut the wire in half and connect it. this makes the alarm thin the clutch is pressed in, cause supplying negative to the switch.

any insight is that correct

ATX_INSTALL

Have you gotten everything to work yet. I have been installing alarms for 4+ years and know just about everything you need to know to do remote starts.