Auex

MSRP of Lojack is $695.

8atman

try to find a hook up threw a dealership they buy and install that **** for really cheap

eskribble

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I'd spend the money just for that extra piece of comfort

8atman

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1Ek 1Eg

My homie got his for $150. Mad hookup.

8atman

lets keep this thread going anyone on honda-tech have lojack? i would like to see what an owner has to say.

thanks guys

8atman

bump for info

cxSHOE

i have had 4 lojack systems installed in 4 different cars over the years. here is my story. never had a car stolen, never had to call lojack , and never had any problems with the device not working (i tested it often)

1. they work on commission. the more devices they install per day the more money they make
2. total install will take 15-30 minutes
3. they will tell you where the device is
4. make sure the antenna is fully expanded.


basically the installs will not be that long since they work on commission and they do not have the time to spend 1-2 days putting the device in the most secure location.

they will tell you where the device is located if you tell them you work on your car all the time and you dont want to damage the device and you tell the installer you need to know this prior to doing any work. if the installer refuses then say fine, ill have another installer do the work for me... remember they work on commission so the installer will not be leaving this job and will tell you..

installers tend to keep the antenna short and not expanded to their full 25" capacity. so depending on where the device is and whether or not you have to move it to another place, expand the antenna... i had mine from the dash and ran all along the side pillar and up to the roof..

ive never had any problems with lojack, they work better in larger cities where there are more cops driving around and do not have the device installed at the dealership, have it installed at home so you can personally talk with the installer, and actually see how long it takes,,,, trust me 15-30 minutes. then you can find it and then move it to a better more secure location.

my_lenaptalf

wow... lots of good information here. Now I am torn about what to do.

I guess in the end $695 is worth it for the piece of mind, kind of like Gap Insurance.

teamsoy1320

all you need is lo jack and a removable steering wheel..and maybe 2 clutch locks for fun

Auex

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Lojack installers are not paid on commission.


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How about you PM me the name of the installer off of your insurance certificate.

cxSHOE

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Lojack installers are not paid on commission.

How about you PM me the name of the installer off of your insurance certificate.</TD></TR></TABLE>


LOL........ thanks for validating my point....

there not paid a traditional "commission" as is like real estate or as selling cars at a dealership. but like i said i have an inside installer who tells me everything that "the common folks" are not allowed to know.

and why in the hell would i tell you my installer names let alone anything else that would tie me to him or vise versa? the guy does what i tell him and installs it in places where lojack do not advise and makes the install much more secure... not the typical under the armrest bullshit lojack advices their installers to do. lol

ive bought everything through him legitimantly. and in return i know exactly how much low jack makes on these devices and i know exactly what the pitfalls are when they are installed.

but like i said i wont cause an argument with you.... so ill agree with you in that "yea they arent paid a commission on the installs"

but thanks for validating it without actually saying so...lol

if anyone is seriously going to get a lojack, do the home install, and let the installer know prior to install that you need to know where he will be installing it because you work on your car and dont want to damage the device.. and like i said he will tell you, if he doesnt then cancel the order and have another installer come...but like i said above he will tell you where it is, and all you have to do is when you do the year update of the device to let the installer whos checking the device know where it is so they can log it in their books as to where the lojack is located

lojack keeps an install and check up log sheet that shows the next installer where the device is located.

cxSHOE

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if you shop around you can get it for like $400 at certain valid distributors...but by god do not go to the dealership for it....you are just throwing money away. dealerships want you to think they do a better job, they dont, they put the order in and its just like doing it at home the guy comes does the install and then you get a call thats its done. not to mention the dealership just made an extra $200-$300 with you having them do it...do the home service so you can watch the install yourself and actually see how short of a time is taken....

15-30 mins for the installs.... you really think its in the most secure location? lol

and if your smart like me. get a quote from one spot, then go to another spot and see if they can beat it... trust me with a 200-400 dollar gap in complete profit for distributors they can price it at their disgression... trust me.

i've bought 4 lojacks.... you really think i spent 600+ on each one?? yea right....


Modified by cxSHOE at 6:59 PM 6/23/2006

cxSHOE

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Lojack installers are not paid on commission.

How about you PM me the name of the installer off of your insurance certificate.</TD></TR></TABLE>


and also auex will validate this aswell for us.... did you guys ever wonder why lojack distributors never show any advertising with a price? for example on ebay and such great buyer volume sites?

a valid distributor they are not allowed to make these types of advertising to the public. hence this goes back to the huge profit margin i talked about above. lojack wants as many distributors as possible not just one busy distributor. so if the public new of the actual distributor costs as it relates to lojacks actual profit,,, well im sure you know the rest...

but shop around and like i said you'll find that distributor that will be the next guys price.

cxSHOE

and by no means do i flame lojack, it has always worked for me. all i am saying is you can find out where the device is placed, and you can get a better price by shopping around and letting the other distributor know the last guys price.

and sorry if this offends distributors on the board. sometimes the truth hurts

Auex

Well if you buy through a dealer/vender then everything is negotiable, there is a cost and sales can negotiate just like almost any other aftermarket car part. Also I am not a vendor/dealer, I work for Lojack the company. I guarantee that the installers employed by Lojack are not payed on commision, it dissuades rushing the installs. I can also tell you the installer is NOT supposed to disclose the location of the unit, even to the owner.

I can't go into specifics due to my job but these points also made clear to anyone involved in sales, installs, or any other aspect relating to Lojack operations.

As far as advertising price, I am not on the sales side of the business so I quote MSRP.

As far as keeping track of info on the vehicles that have Lojack, of course we keep information regarding vehicles and the location of the Lojack. It is insane the amount of backup is required to be able to monitor the NCIC, national crime information center's computers.

Also I am not trying to argue, just what the facts are supposed to be. I will validate or disprove anything that I can, that isn't protected by confidentiality agreement. Got a question, I will do my best to answer it.

cxSHOE

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Auex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well if you buy through a dealer/vender then everything is negotiable, there is a cost and sales can negotiate just like almost any other aftermarket car part. Also I am not a vendor/dealer, I work for Lojack the company. I guarantee that the installers employed by Lojack are not payed on commision, it dissuades rushing the installs. I can also tell you the installer is NOT supposed to disclose the location of the unit, even to the owner.

I can't go into specifics due to my job but these points also made clear to anyone involved in sales, installs, or any other aspect relating to Lojack operations.

As far as advertising price, I am not on the sales side of the business so I quote MSRP.

As far as keeping track of info on the vehicles that have Lojack, of course we keep information regarding vehicles and the location of the Lojack. It is insane the amount of backup is required to be able to monitor the NCIC, national crime information center's computers.

Also I am not trying to argue, just what the facts are supposed to be. I will validate or disprove anything that I can, that isn't protected by confidentiality agreement. Got a question, I will do my best to answer it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thank you.

and yes the installers are not supposed to tell the owners of the location of the device. but like i said theres ways of finding out. and i challenge any buyer who does get lojack... the total install will take only 15-30 minutes. and anyone with common sense knows this is no way to do any security install. but like i said this goes back to something i pointed out earlier.

and like auex said he's got certain job restrictions where he cant disclose certain pertinate aspects of the device but if anyone has any questions i can answer them without feeling any pressure.

wrx-killer-Sti-eater

iTrader: (1)

lo-jack hummm, The good and bad. The debate goes on. lol, Well I'll speak from personal experince on it. The older lo-jack sucks major azz and everyone that works for lo-jack knows it. Look at the major losses the company had because of it. I also have a friend that installs for the company. The older unit was a worthless pos if you ask me, It got back alot of cars. don't get me wrong. But Alot of tegs and civics didn't make it back home again. With the older system, you had to notify them that your car was gone. If your car was stolen at 12am and you didn't call it in till 10 am when you woke up. The chances are is that the azzhole who took it broke the car down for it. And most of the time there are two theives. so go figure.

Now the new unit with the earliy warning system is great. And it provides a better chance of stopping the car theif. Because it will notify you when your car has been moved. so you can go see for yourself and then notify the cops so they can track your car sooner. If your car is moved with out the transponder that is attached to your key chain it will notify you.

From personal experinces I will say that lo-jack installs there unit in certaint places on certaint cars. I have seen 6 tegs with the lo-jack in the same spot. And there is a reason for it . And I will not explain why. But there is 6 primary spots on the teg. And most theives know about it.

Me and my bro's in laws go to auctions from insurance companines. We buy tegs to rebuild and sell to make alittle profit. And out of the six we bought last year four had lo-jack. My itr that I bought from the auction had lo-jack. The ******* removed it and wrote expletive lo-jack in the spot were it was mounted, They even left the antena.

I have the new e.w.s. lo-jack on it now with the dei tracking unit. I had to have special permmision from lo-jack to move the unit because the installer was going to put it in a chessy location. With dei units I can track the car real time movements from any computer and can go get my car back at the real time location of were my car is at with the dei unit. I can disable the car with the dei unit while you are driving the car. And I use the lo-jack as back up. The more the better.

I had a couple of friends that had there tegs stolen and never recoverd. That had lo-jack installed. And They thought there car was invensable. Thank god for full coverage. I will say this. If you have a good alarm system intalled in your car+lo-jack+Other options like the club, foot lock and any other alarm acc. You have a good chance your car will remain safe.

8atman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lo-jack hummm, The good and bad. The debate goes on. lol, Well I'll speak from personal experince on it. The older lo-jack sucks major azz and everyone that works for lo-jack knows it. Look at the major losses the company had because of it. I also have a friend that installs for the company. The older unit was a worthless pos if you ask me, It got back alot of cars. don't get me wrong. But Alot of tegs and civics didn't make it back home again. With the older system, you had to notify them that your car was gone. If your car was stolen at 12am and you didn't call it in till 10 am when you woke up. The chances are is that the azzhole who took it broke the car down for it. And most of the time there are two theives. so go figure.

Now the new unit with the earliy warning system is great. And it provides a better chance of stopping the car theif. Because it will notify you when your car has been moved. so you can go see for yourself and then notify the cops so they can track your car sooner. If your car is moved with out the transponder that is attached to your key chain it will notify you.

From personal experinces I will say that lo-jack installs there unit in certaint places on certaint cars. I have seen 6 tegs with the lo-jack in the same spot. And there is a reason for it . And I will not explain why. But there is 6 primary spots on the teg. And most theives know about it.

Me and my bro's in laws go to auctions from insurance companines. We buy tegs to rebuild and sell to make alittle profit. And out of the six we bought last year four had lo-jack. My itr that I bought from the auction had lo-jack. The ******* removed it and wrote expletive lo-jack in the spot were it was mounted, They even left the antena.

I have the new e.w.s. lo-jack on it now with the dei tracking unit. I had to have special permmision from lo-jack to move the unit because the installer was going to put it in a chessy location. With dei units I can track the car real time movements from any computer and can go get my car back at the real time location of were my car is at with the dei unit. I can disable the car with the dei unit while you are driving the car. And I use the lo-jack as back up. The more the better.

I had a couple of friends that had there tegs stolen and never recoverd. That had lo-jack installed. And They thought there car was invensable. Thank god for full coverage. I will say this. If you have a good alarm system intalled in your car+lo-jack+Other options like the club, foot lock and any other alarm acc. You have a good chance your car will remain safe. </TD></TR></TABLE>

great info here, thanks. Yeah lojack it just another layer in your security system. Im sure it isnt going to save your car but it can help keep it and that is important. What is the dei? I have heard of it could you elaberate on it or explain what and where you got it and about how much it cost.

thanks again

lets keep this thread alive with all the cars being stolen we need to keep out look out for thieves.

wrx-killer-Sti-eater

iTrader: (1)

The dei is a stand along unit, It han be used with or with out a alarm system. It way better with a alarm system. its a gps/ celluar base system. It features online instance tracking, real time info. and will alert you via email, cell phone call or page if your car is moved with out your knowledge. You can also unlock or lock your doors via internet or phone. You can also disable the car while it is in motion- your not suppose to do this, it suppose to be set up that when the car is turned off it won't start again. But us installers just switch it to the ingition. So you can shut it down while they are driving. It has it own seperate back up battery so don't worry about it being diabled. I love this unit and recomend it to all of my customers. going price is about 750-1000 $ depending on were you go. Plus install.

8atman

anyone else have lojack or knows about it keep posting

94_DC4

I agree completely with cxSHOE. All the info he gave is the same info that was given to me by a Lojack installer. That is why I dont think that lojack is a great security device.

8atman

so what would be the ultimate security setup. Living in so cali thieves are as prominent as spinner rims im assuming a layered secity setup is the best, kill switches, quick release battery relocation, backup batteries ect. anyone else got some good pointers. It sucks having to leave my car outside every time i leave it i think that it might be the last time i see it i have had a car stolen from me before and perhaps this is why i am so egear to prevent it from happening again.

B18EG6

Can any of these systems be installed by us or do we have to get a professional to do so? My car is torn down, no interior or motor, I think now would be an ideal time to think about installing something like this

cxSHOE

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the lojack system needs to be "woken up" so the initial install of the lojack needs to be done by a lojack installer. during the initial install your car needs to be in running condition. so if the car is not running you will never get the installer to do anywork. the reason the car needs to be in running condition is so the battery in the lojack devices has a battery that needs to be charged. the charging will be done in 5-15 minutes so when the lojack installer says its done the charge is done aswell.

and once the install is finished, you can remove the lojack completely from the car and then move it to a better location.

the lojack system is very simple in design as far as the wiring goes.

the main point of lojack working is not the wring design but the placement of the device so i dont think going over how its wired will cause any issues as far as letting thieves know how to bypass it... yes? no?