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Hey HT,

well for Xmas i got an iPod 40 gigger and i want to be able to use it in my car. I used my cousin's FM transmitter, but the audio quality = poop and was way overpriced. So I figured out two options for my Alpine 9805 headunit.

Option 1:

a little connector thingy. $15. no control from headunit= not a big deal. i think it will connect to my radio cause I have Ai-Net. Great sound quality.

Option 2:

control from headunit. $100. don't really have that much money.

my question is will option 1 fit to my headunit?

my headunit:

Alpine CDA 9805

FireMedic

"Option 1" will only connect to your head unit if it is Ai-NET compatible, and even if it is, it only looks like its a Aux Input adapter. From the looks of it its not going to work, it just looks like 1.5->DIN

If you want to get by cheaply, get an Alpine Ai-NET aux input adapter and a nice 1.5mm Mini-Plug (headphone plug) adapter to RCA adapter. Thats what I'm doing with my Delphi My-Fi

Hehehe I just

sorry fire i don't understand what you are trying to say with it not being ai-net compatible and then if it is it wont work

my headunit is ai-net compatible so why wouldn't it work if this is the aux adapter?

Hehehe I just

this is the info from crutchfield:

The KCM-123B allows you to connect 1 audio auxiliary source (with a mini-jack output) to any Alpine Versatile-Link™-ready M-bus head unit (model number will contain an "M," as in CDM-9821). Once connected, you can select the AUX source on your receiver and utilize the Bass Engine® sound-shaping functions to personalize the playback. (When using the KCM-123B cable, a CD changer cannot be connected to the receiver.) Warranty: 1 year

FireMedic

You just answered your own question. The Aux adapter that you just listed/showed is for the M-Bus ready head units, not Ai-Net. Alpine manufactures 2 different 'classes' of head unit. Ai-Net, for the highed-end units that can be attached to Ai-Net changers, processors, etc. Ai-Net decks are those that start with CDA-. They also manufacture a different interface for their lower priced decks, that is called M-Bus. These decks are usually those that are under $200. The M-Bus decks start with CDM- in the model number. The adapter you just showed is for M-Bus decks, therefor will not work with your Ai-Net unit.

To make your deck work with an auxillary input, you need the Ai-Net Auxillary input adapter.

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Hehehe I just

thanks firemedic i now understand what you were saying. so i looked in the alpine cda-9805 manual intruction booklet thingy that i found in my glovebox and it said this is compatible:


The KCM-121B allows you to connect 1 audio auxiliary source to any Alpine Versatile-Link™-ready Ai-NET head unit. Once connected, you can select the AUX source on your receiver and utilize the Bass Engine® sound-shaping functions to personalize the playback. 1-year warranty.

Note: When using the KCA-121B, a CD changer cannot be connected to the receiver; the KCA-801B auxiliary input adapter allows you to connect an auxiliary source and an Ai-NET changer to the receiver. The KCA-410C Versatile-Link™ Terminal allows you to feed audio from up to two auxiliary sources and two Ai-NET CD changers to the receiver.

SO when I use this I will need a 1.5 mm - RCA adapter right? that is good cause i have one on hand.

Hehehe I just

oh will this give me digital high quality sound too?

FireMedic

It will give you better sound than a FM modulated setup, but not necessarily better than the iPod interface.

Hehehe I just

well im looking for CD-quality not necessarily an amplified sound

fcm

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JDMorgan

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i got one of these somewhere along the line and it ended up right here. odd huh?

dod

i dont know about your head unit , buti just hooked my ipod to my head unit old pioneer p8000 with a ipbus to rca cable, then to rca to micro jack, works great, i also used the belken car charger which accepts the micro jack so yuo only have one cable coming from the ipod dock connector. sounds good but i get a little interference i think from having the audio jack plugged in to the charger. ended up being alot cleaner set thnai thought it would be.

Hehehe I just

how's the sound quality?

EBP_SI

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playing an MP3 wont give cd quality.

The Alchemist...

You are pretty limited in your options because of the deck. I would just get the Alpine adapter or sell the deck - put the stock one back in and get an adapter like the one I have or something. It has a better interface then the Alpine.

The Alchemist...

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http://www.mp3yourcar.com neo ion has good sound quality. I don't know why you guys are saying you are loosing quality though. If your using a homemade adapter then you might loose quality but other then that you should be fine. Maybe your MP3s are low quality?

NemesisCBR

Ok i spent enough time searching topics and this is the only one that was close to my problem in regards to connection type. Hope i can get answers here without starting a new thread.

I called Alpine and tech support told me to get the kca-121b and the rca to jack cable. The tech also said to ground the pink/black wire on the wiring harness. Started off by testing the wire by grounding it and the head unit read 'intrrupt'. I assumed that this was the proper reaction and proceeded to connect the ipod for testing. This is where my problem comes up. I got no sound coming out and no reaction from the unit. No buttons work except title (yay) and no response from the remote signals either. I thought maybe my cheap radioshack rca/headphone cable i bought was defective so i tested it in the house and it worked fine. By the time i got to this the Alpine tech office was closed and im stuck with my console out and unit nearly uninstalled. I keep reading in various threads regarding ipods and auxiliary inputs that they all do the auxialiary connection and it works fine. My only guess at this point is that the information the tech gave me is somehow incorrect. Maybe it doesnt really work with my HU however i dont see why not since its Ai-net/cd changer compatible. HELP?

This is my head unit. Dont suggest the 420i adapter please, that is in the plans for the future cuz i dont have the money right now. My unit is 6 years old and still working so i was originaly planning to stick with it, however, im so digging the cda-9835 and the fact that it works with the adapter. Gonna be a while til i save up money. And prior to contacting Alpine i was using iRock fm transmitter. Just need to figure out why this set up isnt working. Thanks.
http://www.sabreraider.com/ele....html -specs info

1Tym

i have the Alpine KCA-420i adapter module and it works great. Everything is fine except, the only thing that i don't like is that i can't search through playlists, artists, or albums using the remote controller. I can only search using the **** on the headunit, which is annoying when i'm driving to me. But my headunit is the 2003 model CDA-9807 and i was wondering if the 2004 models can search with the remote controller or not. Is it just my headunit or all?

NemesisCBR

I dont think the remotes have enough options to be used in that way. I wont be able to answer the question though til i get my head unit but that wont be for a while. Call up alpine or email them. Get a direct answer in just a couple minutes by phone or patiently by email. Good question though!

1Tym

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i thought the remote would be able to search like how it searches through different folders when searching an MP3 cd. but we'll see. i'll call alpine tomorrow

NemesisCBR

I never had a mp3 compatible HU. Thats cool, i didnt know it could search through folders on a disc. I assumed they songs would just have to be open on the disc with no folders.

Hehehe I just

so nemesis the ai-net to headphone to RCA didnt work?

NemesisCBR

I got it to work but it was the kca-121 adapter to rca jack/1.5mm jack adapter to ipod or any other portable device with the 1.5mm headphone jack. I called alpine and the previous tech forgot to tell me that i need to turn the MUTE off. Mute button still works. Thats just one of the functions when you hold down a certain button. Dont ask what its for but its gotta be off for the auxiliary to work.

1Tym

just tried calling and was on hold for too long. dammit i hate that

Audio28

is anyone else have proglems with lag on the Alpine ipod unit. I love it, but it seems to lag when I search through the songs. The deck also does not let me search songs sometimes. It's weird, Does anyone else have this problem.