tkblingx2

Hey! so i bought anintegra which came with a viper alarm installed already, im not really sure of the model since the previous owner didnt remember but he said it was a older model like 5-7years ago im guessing. The alarm remote itself is the 4 button type if that helps.
Anyways the problem is when i first bought the car the alarm was working fine (expect i couldnt dissable the passive alarm mode which is when it automaticlly locks even if i dont press the lock button after the engine stopped for 30secs) but yea so while i was gone for like a week i guess my battery got drained so much that the alarm started to to go off and finally the battery died and so the alarm stopped.
Well i bought a new optima yellow top and hoped it would fix everything but the alarm doesnt seem to work anymore. I would press all the buttons on the remote but nothing...but the alarm active light or w/e keeps flashing in the car. So i was thinking maybe the remote just wasnt working but the alarm wouldnt go off when it should (for example when i kick the tire haha) so idk what the problem is. Any help would be great....sry for the long story haha.

Cliff notes,
-bought car with working viper alarm system
-Battery completely died in car (alarm kept going off while the battery slowly got drained im guessing)
-Replaced battery but alarm doesnt work
-But the alarm "active" light inside the car keeps flashing..help please! THANKS!

fcm

You are probably going to have to "reboot" the alarm and reprogram the remote, you will need to find the alarm brain and get a model number off it, you will also have to find valet/program switch/button.

You can try to "reboot" by disconnecting batt. neg. lead wait a min. then reconnect, alarm should go off, disarm with remote, [if still programed] or turn on the ign. switch to the run position and press valet/program switch, if all working right alarm should shut off, try remote again if still not working, it will have to be reprogrammed, you will need the alarm model of that. 94

tkblingx2

k, i found the valet switch but ill have to try and find the brain...where would it usually be installed? any good places i should look at first to find it? Thanks!

As for the rebooting way of dissconnecting the batt nothing happened when i did that before nothing happened so i am confused...will i just have to take it to a place like car toys if the brain has to be reprogramed?

B18C_EJ8

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Depends on the installer...

Easy way to find the brain is to trace the valet switch wire back and eventually, you'll run into the brain.

fcm

You do not need to take it to a shop to be programed, with most Viper alarms all you need is the car keys and the valet/program switch, and the owner/install guides, I should be able to get you both, [with a model number] and as B18C_EJ8 mentioned, fallow the valet/program switches wiring right to the alarm brain, it should be easy to find. 94

tkblingx2

hey so i finally found the brain of the alarm and it is a 800HF model...the only problem is when i looked at the back side of the valet button the grey (power?) wire was broken so is there a way to buy just that switch...also there was a loose/cut? wire that i took a picture of but would that be another reason for the bad alarm? thanks!








Modified by tkblingx2 at 7:40 PM 4/15/2006

B18C_EJ8

That switch can be fixed easily. Strip back the wire, and put a dab of solder on it and you're done.

That blue plug in the last pic gets plugged into the brain into the blue port. That's the plug for the valet switch.

fcm

I agree with B18C_EJ8 the valet/program switch can be repaired, and the plug is for the valet/program switch.
Wouldn't you know it, there is no info on the Viper Ultra 800HF on DEIs consumer site, but all the older Vipers worked pretty much the same way, wire colors will be the same, and basic programing is the same, so here is the install guide for the 600HF... http://www.directeddealers.com...V.pdf
and the owners guide... http://www.directeddealers.com...V.pdf
I would also check all the connections, [they should have been soldered] the installer used in-line and cap "crimp" style connectors, a no no in alarm installs. 94

tkblingx2

Thanks but mine is the 800HF unless the 600HF manual also works, as for the loose wire i thought it was the valet switch wire but that was already connected to the brain. It seems to be a different one so i wasnt really sure what it was but it is the same color wire which had my confused also...

fcm

As I said info on the 800HF is not available at DEIs consumer "guides" site, but all the Viper alarms worked and programed much the same way, and wire colors are the same, so the 600HF should be very close.

Is there an empty 2 pin plug on the alarm brain?

Maybe it is for the VRS button, the 2, [valet/program and VRS] look identical, and if the 600HF has a VRS, [Vehicle Recovery System] button it's a good bet the 800HF also has one. 94

crazy sohc vtec guy

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tkblingx2

Well after a couple days of trying to get the alarm to work i have yet to do so.....
I soldered the wires back on to the valet switch and tried to use the manual to get some sort of response from the brain but i get nothing. I tried the programing steps usings the valet switch, but i dont get a single chirp from the siren. The only thing that seems to be working is the red led light that keeps flashing....
The remotes dont get a reponse from the alarm...nothing so im stumped
Do i just have to get a new alarm/or atleast a new brain? thanks!

fcm

It does sound like the brain has a problem if it will not even go into program mode, I do not think you can still get a new brain for it, but DEI alarms come with a lifetime warranty, if purchased and installed at an authorized dealer, if not you would be better off to get a new alarm.

Before you pull it out .....

Have you tried a reboot? Disconnect the batt. neg. (-) terminal, wait a few min. then reconnect.

Have you tried "disarming without remote"? to stop LED from blinking, turn ign. on and press the valet/program switch, also make sure you are using the valet/program switch and not the VRS switch, you must use the valet/program switch for any programing, using the VRS switch will not get you into programing, ["not a single chirp from the siren"] 94

tkblingx2

From what the original owner said the switch i was using is the valet switch and i dont htink there was a VRS switch installed...Since the last time i heard the alarm go off...which was a long time ago haha ive replaced the battery and stuff also so it should be reset.

Maybe theres something wrong internally with the valet switch not just the wires coming out of it, i also bought some other button switched at radio shack so im going to try that.

tkblingx2

well i soldered on a new push button switch hoping that might do something but of course nothing happened. I took apart the brain and looked inside and made sure it was on "learn mode" checked all the connections that i could but nothing....im going to get a multimeter (or w/e its called ) and test somethings out but im guessing in going to need a new alarm

tkblingx2

So will i need to get a new alarm?

fcm

If the valet/program switch does nothing at all and you know the switch is working and it is plugged into the proper port on the brain and you have checked the wiring, [alarm brain has a good ground, constant power and ign. power] then I would say yes you need a new alarm, at the very least the valet/program switch should put the alarm into valet, [turn on ign. press and release or hold switch till LED comes on solid] if this is not happening then alarm is toast. 94