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Old 08-21-2005, 01:22 AM
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I need some suggestions about the base map setup for Hondata S300. I have yet to do the swap but should be this upcoming weekend pending all the little stupid things that could screw me have shown up. Well heres what I'm using. I need suggestions about IDLE IGNITION TIMING AND FUEL AS WELL AS FUEL PRESSURE ETC. Running N/A CR/VTEC 11:5:1 c/r with a 2000 ITR cylinder head with all stock valvetrain.

THE CAR:

1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback

The Engine:

B20B4 Block Zyglowed, Bored & Honed to 84.5mm with Torque Plate, Align Honed, Hot Tanked, Surfaced & Decked
Crank Magnafluxed, Balanced, Micropolished
Clevite Rod Bearings
Clevite Main Bearings
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
ARP Rod Bolts
ARP Exhaust Studs
Eagle Rods 4340
JE Forged Pistons 11:5:1 Compression Ratio
ITR Water pump
ITR Oil pump
Prodrive Oil Pump Gear
ITR Timing belt and new Belt Tensioner
Golden Eagle LS/VTEC Conversion Piece
Endyn Crankcase Breather Kit
Cometic Head Gasket
2000 JDM ITR Cylinder Head
Megan 4-1 2.5" Collector Header (POS i know but this project literally broke the bank)
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
AEBS Intake Manifold Port matched to STR Throttle Body
AEM SRI Intake
STR 70mm Throttle Body
SiR2 TPS
OBD1 1994 GSR Distributor
OBD1 Integra Alternator
Hasport Engine Mounts
Spoon Sports Magnetic Drain Plugs to filter metal break in shavings

Engine Tuning and Monitoring:

Apex-I VAFC
PLX M300 Wideband O2 Sensor and Controller
Hondata S300 System
Autometer Carbon Fiber Oil Pressure Gauge
Autometer Phantom Oil Temperature Gauge
Jegs Fuel Pressure Gauge

The Fuel System:

Walbro 255LPH Fuel Pump
Holley Adjustible Fuel Pressure Regulator
STR Fuel Rail
Precision Engineering 440cc Injectors
Russell Stainless Fuel Line
New OEM Fuel filter

The Drivetrain:

1996 Integra Type-R Transmission with LSD
AI4-HDR6 ACT 6 Puck Clutch with Heavy Duty Pressure Plate
ACT Streetlite 12lb Flywheel
Driveshaft Shop Stage 2 500hp Axles


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So...absolutely no one can help me with base maps...
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Jdm p30 map scaled to your displacement. 16 degree's base timing.

I dont know anyone who even has the s300 yet.
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Not trying to be an ***, but first off, your post has way to much **** in it. We only need the specs of the engine to get an idea of what basemap to recomend. We dont need vehicle info, or wheel type and color, or suspension setup.

Second, you waited less than a day for help then made a thumbs down post because no one had responded yet. Your attitude stinks.
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I got the S300 back from Slowmotion Motorsports last Friday. Thanks T-bone, and whoopdie doo I posted a bunch of other crap the car has, its a mod list I copied and pasted. and btw...everything is listed into what catagory, its quite easy to see engine and tuning/monitoring. BTW I don't have a bad attitude about it at all, I was merely bumping the thread so it doesn't go to the bottom.
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I said that because alot of times people will see all that info and not even bother reading, even if they could have helped they skip right over. Just trying to help you out.
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I can do the initial calibration with a brief street tune for you so you can at least daily drive it. A full tune on a dyno is something I probably won't have time for tho.
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Yeah I just need help setting up a base map, and I already heard that the first few S300's sent out had improper ignition timing and fuel maps...I've got a good friend that can help me out on the dyno but it is imperatrive that this car is up and running by sunday morning because I just got a job with infinity and have to be able to get to work.
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I'm still without a car, so if you want me to do it, find a way to compensate any one of my friends (Jason Jizzmenez maybe if he isn't partying this weekend) to get me up there and back and I can have it done in a couple of hours with you driving.
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I'm sure I can get you here and home one way or another even borrowing my moms 2001 Prelude.
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That would be better than asking Jason or Nicki since they probably have their own agendas for their time in Indy this weekend. Any time after 6PM is fine with me since I work a full week this week just before school starts this Monday.

Friday is a no because I've already got plans, as well as any night before that since I've already got plans some time this week to see the 40 year old virgin with friends. Saturday night is your best options. Actually, it's your only option right now.
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sunday afternoon maybe? I'm going to start on the swap thursday-friday...hopefully I can get my start date at Infinity pushed to next monday instead of this thursday.

I don't know...but I put in that I had 440CC injectors over the stock 240cc's whatever the stock ones are...I used a JDM P72 from 92-95 as the starting point...and I turned up overal fuel correction like 3% because I'll be running probably 50psi at idle to be safe...but I don't think these look very safe but I don't know enough about the software to say that yet...and the manual included doesn't help very much for a guy thats just starting into actually "tuning" a computer.






Could use some help for sure.


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bump...anyone?
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Start with the ITR map. If I'm gonna do it, then you don't need to worry about any of that.

BTW, Sunday afternoon is no good. Saturday night is pretty much the only night I have. I might be up in Indy anyways to help Jason pick up his bike so I should be able to get there and back. Just tell me yes or no for Saturday night whenever you think everything's on track for me to come up and do it.
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Depends if I can get the fuel pump in, the oil lines run, the PLX M300 wired up, the engien pulled and the new engine all bolted in and wired up within the amount of time I have til saturday night...I don't know...basically I'll just give Jason a call if its done if it is it is if it isn't it isn't and hopefully Luke'll help me. Anyway this is totally ******* with me....

200mbar = 5.90602"HG
400mbar = 11.81204"HG
600mbar = 17.71806"HG
800mbar = 23.62408"HG
1000mbar = 29.5301"HG

We know that at idle manifold vacuum is high like...20-28"HG or in that range at least....so my question is if 200mbar is 5.9"HG...WTF shouldn't it be 1000mbar at idle and like 200mbar or less at WOT considering manifold vacuum drops under load....?
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You're reading absolute pressure, not gauge pressure. That's why it's ~1000mbar at atmospheric pressure and not 0mbar.

If you find it more comfortable to read the units of pressure in "Hg, then you can change the units in the settings.

Engine install, wiring, and fuel pump get first priority. You can do without the PLX and oil cooler lines. I've got an Innovate I can temporarily install to do the street tune. I like it better anyways.
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Engine install...theres no one who will help me until saturday/sunday and they probably won't help me then either, and I'm not bothering with an oil cooler...the other big fitting that comes off the back of the thermostat outlet...I don't know what coolant line that is supposed to go to and I don't have a helms...so i'm pretty well screwed so far, not to mention my car has power steering and I don't have a bracket or belts or anything so I'm going to go try to find Happys on Tibbs avenue to buy a manual rack so I don't have to deal with the damn looping of lines etc plus my rack is pretty fucked...I'm pretty fucked...
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