------Fully Built Engines------
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------Fully Built Engines------
So what in your opinion is a fully built engine or mildly built engine?
Now are we talking oversized valves, complete port and polish, bore over, with a stroker crank being fully built only and all others less then this are Mildly built. Or is it something different.
Just curious as to what other peoples opinions are on this. I have mine and everyones will most likely be diffrent.
Now are we talking oversized valves, complete port and polish, bore over, with a stroker crank being fully built only and all others less then this are Mildly built. Or is it something different.
Just curious as to what other peoples opinions are on this. I have mine and everyones will most likely be diffrent.
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"fully built" .... i hate that word with a passion. If someone says it or list their cars as fully built i don't even bother to read it cause 9/10 times it's not.
also guys who build thier own stuff hardly ever say they have "fully built" their head/block ect cause for them it's never a done task.
kids you use fully built are those who bought their cars "semi-built" and say fully built to make the deal/car sound sweeter.
sorry for the rant.
for me fully built implies it's a 1 off setup which as to be special engine with a few custom parts to make it different than others.
everything is just typical cookie-cutter "built" engine with OTS parts.
also guys who build thier own stuff hardly ever say they have "fully built" their head/block ect cause for them it's never a done task.
kids you use fully built are those who bought their cars "semi-built" and say fully built to make the deal/car sound sweeter.
sorry for the rant.
for me fully built implies it's a 1 off setup which as to be special engine with a few custom parts to make it different than others.
everything is just typical cookie-cutter "built" engine with OTS parts.
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Nope Its cool that is your opinion. Thats why I started this thread for people to share what they think. IMO I agree somewhat. I too believe that a "fully" built engine does refer to a, somewhat one-off engine. I mean lets face it. "B" "H" "K" "F" "D" "A" "J" "ZC" AND "C" have all been around for a little bit by now. So someone somewhere maybe running exactly what you've built as well. But for the most part its something that you don't see often at all. I do believe that no build is ever done Fully, Mild, or Bonkers alike they are never done.
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LOL hella flush. dont get me wrong it looks nice and I have respect for the hella flush guys some of them put some serious fab work into their rides. But it definitely not for me. And unfortunately most hella flush guys especialy where I currently reside are arrogant individuals.
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in my opinion fully built would mean there is nothing else you can do to the engine
example: machined as far as possible both head and block and highest quality/ best performing parts.
but everyones opinion is different on "the best parts" so could it ever truley be fully built???
example: machined as far as possible both head and block and highest quality/ best performing parts.
but everyones opinion is different on "the best parts" so could it ever truley be fully built???
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i would say fully built is flexible term
to a garage builder fully built would mean boltons+most of the internals upgraded (valvetrain cams rods pistons )
i dont think fully built should refer to the maximum power that can be achieved from specific engine.. its more like the engine has been taken apart and rebuilt with the common upgrades external and internal...
i mean fully built b series with boltons cams valvetrain rods and pistons can make anywhere from 180whp to 230 whp... depending on the combination of parts used.
both engines are built just with different parts...
to a garage builder fully built would mean boltons+most of the internals upgraded (valvetrain cams rods pistons )
i dont think fully built should refer to the maximum power that can be achieved from specific engine.. its more like the engine has been taken apart and rebuilt with the common upgrades external and internal...
i mean fully built b series with boltons cams valvetrain rods and pistons can make anywhere from 180whp to 230 whp... depending on the combination of parts used.
both engines are built just with different parts...
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In my native land of South Texas, when I hear the term fully built it usually implys a rod/piston combo and aftermarket valve train.
In my opinion, fully built means there is nothing else than can be modified
In my opinion, fully built means there is nothing else than can be modified
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Fully built:
Every specific area or system has been optimized to produce maximum effects for a specific build.
i.e.- A high gas milage build will not corrospond with modifications that highest torque/HP builds. An endurance motor (salt flat/super speedway) will have little in common with a fully built drag motor. All are in their own right able to be called fully built whether it be slang or percieved factual.
Every specific area or system has been optimized to produce maximum effects for a specific build.
i.e.- A high gas milage build will not corrospond with modifications that highest torque/HP builds. An endurance motor (salt flat/super speedway) will have little in common with a fully built drag motor. All are in their own right able to be called fully built whether it be slang or percieved factual.
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Re: ------Fully Built Engines------
Technicaly, and running motor is fully built since its running so all parts are there.
Id say "fully built" means every part of the engine has been built to the fullest of its capabilities.
I have seen very few in what my opinion of "fully built" engines are and they were n/a.
Id say "fully built" means every part of the engine has been built to the fullest of its capabilities.
I have seen very few in what my opinion of "fully built" engines are and they were n/a.
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Fully built could also mean that a stock engine has been completely torn down and every gasket, seal, ring and bearing has been replaced with OEM components. Every other component in the engine has been checked and repaired or replaced if required. Then it is put back together and is fresh as new... or Fully Built.
I generally put very little faith into threads here on H-T that start with the words "Fully Built". They are usually very far from full or even close to a build.
I generally put very little faith into threads here on H-T that start with the words "Fully Built". They are usually very far from full or even close to a build.
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I'll be "that guy"
EVERY motor has to be fully built to work and function properly. A half built motor won't get you very far
EVERY motor has to be fully built to work and function properly. A half built motor won't get you very far
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Re: ------Fully Built Engines------
Fully built could also mean that a stock engine has been completely torn down and every gasket, seal, ring and bearing has been replaced with OEM components. Every other component in the engine has been checked and repaired or replaced if required. Then it is put back together and is fresh as new... or Fully Built.
I generally put very little faith into threads here on H-T that start with the words "Fully Built". They are usually very far from full or even close to a build.
I generally put very little faith into threads here on H-T that start with the words "Fully Built". They are usually very far from full or even close to a build.
I personally consider this a rebuilt engine. But that my opinion.
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Agreed. I have been guilty of this back when I had a 240sx RB project and no funds to sustain it. I remember I threw every used part laying around the shop at it. I think that experience is what makes me iffy about owning another boosted car. But we all live and learn right. I wouldn't go as far as to say every motor has to be fully built to work properly, but every motor does need to be worked through and checked during rebuild in order to function properly.
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To me fully built would be everything us could possible do to an engine had been done. U squeezed everything u could out of it and is no longer "stock"
Mild build would be bolt one, maybe cams a tune or what not. Still having stock parts in conjunction of some aftermarket to help raise its hp a bit.
I'll never own a fully built motor. Don't have the money. But I would like to wheeze a bit more out of my engine with a mild build.
Mild build would be bolt one, maybe cams a tune or what not. Still having stock parts in conjunction of some aftermarket to help raise its hp a bit.
I'll never own a fully built motor. Don't have the money. But I would like to wheeze a bit more out of my engine with a mild build.
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To me fully built would be everything us could possible do to an engine had been done. U squeezed everything u could out of it and is no longer "stock"
Mild build would be bolt one, maybe cams a tune or what not. Still having stock parts in conjunction of some aftermarket to help raise its hp a bit.
I'll never own a fully built motor. Don't have the money. But I would like to wheeze a bit more out of my engine with a mild build.
Mild build would be bolt one, maybe cams a tune or what not. Still having stock parts in conjunction of some aftermarket to help raise its hp a bit.
I'll never own a fully built motor. Don't have the money. But I would like to wheeze a bit more out of my engine with a mild build.
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Rebuilt = running engine that has been re-ringed and new bearings
Remanufactured = cut crank, re-sized rods, .020-.060 over bore, new rings, bearings and oil pump ( OEM replacement parts )
Mildy built = stock block with a built head
Built = rod/piston combo with some valve train upgrades
Fully Built = nothing else can be upgraded. This includes sleeves
How I see things.
Remanufactured = cut crank, re-sized rods, .020-.060 over bore, new rings, bearings and oil pump ( OEM replacement parts )
Mildy built = stock block with a built head
Built = rod/piston combo with some valve train upgrades
Fully Built = nothing else can be upgraded. This includes sleeves
How I see things.
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See this is why I am considering my engine to be a Mild Built motor. Some have argued with me that is fully built but I dont think so. There is still stuff to be done. Like bigger valve ports a port and polish and some After market cams instead of Z3's