Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces
06-17-2008, 10:52 AM
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Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces
Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces
Prototype spy drawing for BVTEC Honda.
Here is the 2 gram version.
Click Me - 2 Gram Rod
Modified by Master of the Universe at 2:27 PM 7/17/2008
Prototype spy drawing for BVTEC Honda.
Here is the 2 gram version.
Click Me - 2 Gram Rod
Modified by Master of the Universe at 2:27 PM 7/17/2008
06-17-2008, 11:45 AM
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Why are people still making **** fo da b series, k is da future y0!!
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I like how the wrist pin has been moved to a higher location in the piston.
Who is designing this? Is it you?
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I like how the wrist pin has been moved to a higher location in the piston.
Who is designing this? Is it you?
06-17-2008, 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BMo Tuning »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who is designing this? Is it you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Working with a CNC and metallurgy guru/genious. I provide input re key/critical design elements.
Working with a CNC and metallurgy guru/genious. I provide input re key/critical design elements.
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06-17-2008, 12:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lengualoco21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rod looks great. But it doesn't appear to be for an all motor application looks like its more for Forced Induction</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, that's the FI version at 240 grams without bolts.
Yes, that's the FI version at 240 grams without bolts.
06-17-2008, 12:44 PM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (Master of the Universe)
Looks like a beefed up TRX bike piston with an aluminum rod. Nice pieces. But the real problem with the B is air flow.
06-17-2008, 01:22 PM
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Looks pretty good! I wonder how well aluminum rods hold up for street or road-racing use? I think the top fuel drag guys replace them every few seconds... 
I remember reading something a while back about the aluminum rods help a bit with knock (or N20/-NO2 fuels) because the modulus is lower and the bearings don't get beat as hard with a "springy" rod.
Are these the same guys working on the aluminum roller-VTEC rocker setup?
I remember reading something a while back about the aluminum rods help a bit with knock (or N20/-NO2 fuels) because the modulus is lower and the bearings don't get beat as hard with a "springy" rod.Are these the same guys working on the aluminum roller-VTEC rocker setup?
06-17-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (Master of the Universe)
I know you said that you had something special coming for my new road race
engine I hope this is a drawing of them
Regards Dyno Dave
engine I hope this is a drawing of them
Regards Dyno Dave
06-17-2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (Dyno Dave)
We've got a couple Aluminum alloys in mind. One is 50% stronger than 7075 series and the other is 100% stronger.
These alloys are already being used by some race teams.
These alloys are already being used by some race teams.
06-17-2008, 03:30 PM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (Master of the Universe)
Are you running a special set of oil control rings?
Also, you mentioned wieght reduction but you could not get the right performance and wieght reduction with a NiCrMoV alloy? Aluminum strength is tricky when it gets warm.
Also, you mentioned wieght reduction but you could not get the right performance and wieght reduction with a NiCrMoV alloy? Aluminum strength is tricky when it gets warm.
06-17-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (mar778c)
Not too concerned with high temp strength for the rod as the rod doesn't get nearly as hot as the piston.
For all out race we will skip using the 2nd ring.
For all out race we will skip using the 2nd ring.
06-17-2008, 06:37 PM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (Master of the Universe)
will the rod have a limited life expectancy or given the proper running conditions will it be sutible for a daily driver as a steel rod?
06-17-2008, 08:34 PM
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Great looking stuff. Low friction and light weight ftw.
Enough prototype pictures, lets have the real thing already! 
Enough prototype pictures, lets have the real thing already!
06-18-2008, 04:10 AM
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Re: Exotic Piston-Rod Combo: High End Pieces (2stepEK)
Looks interesting, any peeks at the underside of the piston? Are these planned to be custom order only, as in built to spec?
Aside from further weight reduction, would having a gap in the ringland, just above the wrist pin lead to possible ring failure from vibration? I realize it isn't side-loaded in that direction, but just curious....
Modified by dyingwish at 5:32 AM 6/18/2008
Aside from further weight reduction, would having a gap in the ringland, just above the wrist pin lead to possible ring failure from vibration? I realize it isn't side-loaded in that direction, but just curious....
Modified by dyingwish at 5:32 AM 6/18/2008
06-18-2008, 04:35 AM
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Wow thats light i would love to see an all motor rod if thats a FI rod. Are they still going to continue the I beam design or will you guys come up with a totally new style of beam.
06-18-2008, 07:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Master of the Universe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Working with a CNC and metallurgy guru/genious. I provide input re key/critical design elements.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same guys doing the aluminum rockers? How are those coming?
Working with a CNC and metallurgy guru/genious. I provide input re key/critical design elements.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same guys doing the aluminum rockers? How are those coming?