burnerspeed

okay so i currently have a b20vtec and really enjoy it but lately I've been thinking about starting over fresh. I was thinking an all out na build, but then i wasn't sure which direction to go. what would be my best "base" to start with. would i be best off with a gsr, itr, b20v lsv? in the end i guess I'm asking what would make the most power once its fully built. any input is greatly appreciated thank you.

boooosted

I hate these threads, There is no real way of seeing what motor could make more power. Its all tuning and time and money.

burnerspeed

okay then why don't i be a little more specific. lets say engine + built head (cams, intake mani, tb, port and polish, valve springs and retainers and header) as well as a mild block build (rods, bearings, pistons, rod bolts)

or we could go a different direction and say including motor (don't worry about tranny) my budget would be about 6-7k. yes i do actually have this money and am seriously thinking about starting over

Evoinboost

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k-swap

xelaxela

H22

beantowncoupe98

At the end of the day any b series fully built is the something IMO

GhostAccord

IMO your best bet would be to go with anything > 2L. A 2.2L+ block is a good place to start. Anything smaller takes more money to make real tq/hp. If you already have a B20 block you might want to start from there. Go bigger with some sleeves, pistons and some good head work. It won't take long to spend $7k if you are serious about your build. Everything will need upgrading, intake, head, block & exhaust.

burnerspeed

so far it looks like b series. any other suggestions???

Builda'Teg_92

Truth, not long at ALL

ill fast

If you want the most potential in a motor k series is the way to go

crxsi1

K-series is the best but to do it right it might cost a little more then 7k I think it cost at least 6k to just get motor and swap everthing in maybe 7k then to build it.... better sell that b20 get a little more money lol but for the money either build ur current one or get a b18cr especially for road racing better balance....imo

abs0Lut

h2b, youll make more power for cheaper than a k20/k24, do a G23 if you feel like being a boss.

EsotericImage

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whats the HP goal and decide from there.

Why spend $xxxx if its only going to net you under the power goal ur looking for?

I mean, you can go with high compression, but what fuel is going to used? E85? 91? 93?

your choice of fuel needs to added in to whatever u decide to build.

Looks like you need more planning before adding parts to your cart.

Lambo123

i've seen complete k-swaps going for 5-6k. you just have to be patient and search around. plus you could sell your b20vtec swap. oh, and it'd be a much better starting foundation then any b-series motor you can think of while making built b power out of the box.

ill fast

me personally i have seen k's go 3500-4k and that included motor, type s tranny, ecu and sometime both harness and shifter box

the171

4 cylinder... K24 is the honda engine that has the most all motor potential to date. This has been proven. Look at all the fastest all motor Hondas. K series is champion. H2B is cheaper in a way but if you're serious its gonna be completely custom and just as expensive.

blue94delsol

H22 head and h23 block. H2b

the171

It still wont be as fast a k24, build for build.

GIZZ - EXV

$7G budget and you're doing it all yourself? Or paying a shop? A big difference between the 2.

What car is it going into?

Can't beat a K24 for all motor HP, it's just if the budget will allow it. Otherwise take what you have and build another bottom end for it.

burnerspeed

I'm doing it all myself and with a buddy of mine (who is a mechanic) . My build will be in a 99 civic hatch. If I can find a k swap for 3500-4k I'd be all over it for sure. I'm not. Huge fan of the h22 I've heard lots of problems. With my current set up I've got a gsr lsd tranny and I love it. So if I stay bseries ill keep that for sure and swap the engine depending on what decide to do. I'm still all ears

m_shake

H2B, or a k20/24 build if you feel like breaking trannys

jksmith

for $7k id do a all OEM (or maybe a set of off the shelf wisecos) G23 to B build with your LSD tranny

crazydominicanman

K24A2 hands down. New technology, 2.4 liter, win/win situation.

DDTECH

There is no replacement, for displacement.

vtibrazil

There is a guy I know that built a k24 fro erls motors with a stroker kit and some kelford drop and go cams. He spent US$ 7,800.00 built the motor himself. As I remenber correct he was at 2.6 liters. He told me that he decided to invest in displacement instead of strong cams, he used a drop in cam, didnīt invest in valvetrain and chain tensioner. (Stock valvetrain). If I remenber correctly he was hitting 322whp with the setup. I will try to get a hold of him to post here.