jvr

From what I've read, the f22b2 internals can handle around 300 hp safely without upgrading, and most people use a turbo to get there...

My question is, are there any upgrades to be done to this motor to squeeze a little more power out of it without going FI? First off, are there any parts I could get from a pick and pull from other Hondas that would increase performance even a little? Someone suggested either the intake manifold or the head from an accord EX, is that the f22b1 or f22a_ engine? And how much would be a reasonable price for those from a pick and pull?

What about aftermarket parts... What would be some decent upgrades to start off with? Cam gears and camshaft? Intake/headers/exhaust? Would a tune of the stock components be a better bang for my buck to start with? I'm not ready to drop 6-8 grand on a turbo setup quite yet but I want to explore other options.

To clarify, I'm NOT looking to get 300 hp and I know even shooting for 200 whp n/a is unrealistic without spending a ton of money, but I'm looking for some upgrades that will give me a mild/moderate performance boost to start off with. I'm just as interested in doing these upgrades as a learning experience as for the performance, and I know I can't expect huge gains without dropping a lot of cash or going the FI route. I tried using the search function but it seems like most of the discussion in the n/a section is about h or b series engines. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

whitesihatch

Honestly buddy the f22 single cam is very underrated in terms of potential. It has a solid geometry big stroke bore and one of the f series sohc heads flows quite well from the factory. Bisimoto is making a little over 400hp on his.

But... to get it to that level takes alot of time and money (not to mention setbacks).

I understand you would like a peppy dd/ street car at or over the 200whp mark. I suggest putting the f22 on the back burner, maybe to build in the future and just find yourself an h22vtec, h23vtec, or an f20b.

This will put you near your goal without sacrificing reliability. Hope this helps, I know its not the answer you want, just would hate for you to drop some cash and be dissapointed.

jvr

Thanks for giving your honest opinion. From my research, I sort of knew I would get that response, but was hoping someone would say "well, if you get 'x' head From the junkyard and 'y' set of camshaft and gears from 'z' company, you should get better throttle response and about 15-30 more hp."

I want to reiterate that my goal is not even as ambitious as 200whp... I know that would cost as much money and MORE work than a turbo setup which would give me closer to 250-300 hp. I just wanted to figure out if there was anything other than I/h/e that I could do to the engine I already have.

I understand the suggestion to go with an engine swap, but at that cost I would rather just get a basic turbo setup.

One additional question... I know lots of ppl on here are not fans of nitrous and I'll probably get flamed (or ignored) for this, but what about installing a 75 shot on my stock motor with a window or WOT switch? *runs and hides in the corner*

PS- is bisimoto's 400hp f series motor turbocharged? I can't believe he could get 400hp out of an f series n/a

whitesihatch

No Its a 400whp NA motor, its bored, stroked and deck height has been raised. Big cam high comp etc etc.

Dude h22/f20b are cheap, I picked up a hybrid h22 motor for 500 bucks. You just got to be on the look out. Plus the F20b's sleeves are great for a simple turbo setup in the future.

98vtec

If you are looking for f22 help, the guys on cb7tuner are a little more versed in that area. I'd love to try and help but a lot of guys here are Bvtec, k or H VTEC. Just be weary of the guys who cradle bisi's junk and you'll be OK.

whitesihatch

I agree, i dont cradle Bisi's junk I was just making a statement that the F sohc has potential, just takes money. Thats why I suggested a swap.

But yes OP, the guys on CB7 can be alot more help, they're pretty close knit and very friendly.

Sepulveda87

header intake exahust cai tune cam gears cam intake mani tb and a 90-93 f22a accord head. that will get you close to 160-180 ish. i have 183 hp on low comp build for a turbo. sold the turbo set up lol now just na. torquey as hell, pulls hard man. and if you really want to see a diff get a prelude tranny. i got a t2t4, it make a hell of a difference. i am going to order the hybrid racing no cut box shifter with the bracket and rsx cables. with that i will be able to maintain the high rpms with out grinding the gears/ granny shift with the **** box that the accords/preludes have

ryancooperf22

hey, wich manifold can u put on the f22? I cannot find a aftermarket one! Thanks im advance

GhostAccord

What F22 are you asking about, F22A, F22B or F22C?

If you are referring to the F22A1/6 engine, the stock F22A6 with IAB (dual runner) set up would be the best bang for your buck.

If you are talking the F22B1/2, an OEM F23A intake manifold and throttle body is really the only bolt-on "Upgrade" to the F22B1/2 series engine.

Not sure what the S2000 F22C guys are doing, probably individual throttle body set up.